Potential chocking hazard

[Nickywhite]

Some months ago I emailed advising that I had used a tornado tank and the vr end of the mouthpeice had come off when I inhaled and I nearly choked. I simply got an email back saying it would be looked into.
I have now been using the new mega system but this weekend I went back to the tank. It happened agin
This is a problem which could have terrible consequence. Has anyone else had this issue?

[b1g_d]

Hi Nicky, and welcome to the forum (wow, that's my first welcome!!)

I've not been vaping to lomg, but have come across this problem... it only happened when I dropped my Tornado and a small piece came off the end mouthpiece.... I just slotted it back in... it hasn't happened when I'm inhaling though...

Could you just have a loose mouthpiece? Does it happen with any other of your tanks?

[Pit Vaper]

Some people have been nibbling or chewing on the mouthpiece and causing it to loosen and sometimes sucking it into their mouth.

[Nickywhite]

Hi
I don't chew or nibble!
My worry is that these are used to enable us to inhale therefore (as has happened to me twice) this tiny piece can be inhaled into the airway. On the first occasion  my husband had to a actually. Perform the heinleck (spelling) luckily he is a first aided, but if this happens to someone on their own it could be fatal
I am so pro-digital smoking (I've not had a 'proper' ciggies for 16 months) that I woukd hate for the worldwide publicity for e-NI  to be negative.
I just felt that my emails to totally wicked were not taken seriously and as this has happened again I thought I'd see if others had experienced this

[Astrecks]

Well it is a risk, and there is a silicone sheath with some of the kits that would catch a wayward baffle, but in terms of risk it is pretty small (personally I remove the baffles anyway for a better draw) It is worthy of further thought, and though God forbid if ever it did happen I would put the risk a lot lower than burning yourself and possibly others to death in a tobacco cigarette related fire which are unfortunately not that uncommon.

[Nickywhite]

I totally agree - and not to mention the mess that cigarettes make - I've really noticed how much cleaner my home is. I'd been a heavy smoker for over thirty years and had tried quitting before. Problem I had was that I LIKED smoking but gaping gives me all the same feelings, without all the problems.

I'm not 'complaining' about the product, quite the contrary, but I'm worried that someone will inhale the 'ends' and as we obviouldy are using the mouthpieces to inhale from I cam see it's a aftal accident waiting the happen. I am however a little concerned that TW have not advised their customers that this 'might' happen. It's no good saying there is a silicon sheath available to a dead person!

[Astrecks]

Uhmmm, well I could see someone choking to death if they swallowed a whole atomiser  , but peolple have swallowed coins and survived and I have to take pills far far bigger than mouthpiece baffles,so in reality the baffles are really unlikely to block an airway and kill someone 

[ToadCloud]

Uhmmm, well I could see someone choking to death if they swallowed a whole atomiser  , but peolple have swallowed coins and survived and I have to take pills far far bigger than mouthpiece baffles,so in reality the baffles are really unlikely to block an airway and kill someone 

I don't agree. You don't inhale coins or pills... you DO however inhale the vapor and whatever else is in your mouth when you vape. If something goes down your windpipe, you can't just swallow it.

I think there is a real issue here that at least needs more consideration.


Keep it wet, ToadCloud

[Astrecks]

Going back to the OP it would seem no one else does have an issue with it and my suggestion that the sheath that came with the mouthpiece was to prevent such an occurence was just laughed at when it was suggested some time ago, and was told it was for sharing your ecigs with other people, and I have to say infection is a probably a bigger risk than a choking hazard, so there is a way to prevent it, but not enough people care.

[ToadCloud]

Fair enough. I don't use any of that equipment, so I don't understand the issue well enough to take a stand on the issue for ether side. I'm out.


Keep it wet!

[Darth Vaper]

I have had them pop out in my mouth before.... I'm a biter  

Heat the end up with a lighter just enough to fuse the two pieces together and press a butter knife into each side while still hot to crimp the two pieces together.... has been working fine for me


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[teatime]

I agree with Jeff. Can't we expect some common sense? Please?

To be perfectly honest, it depresses me whenever I open a product and see a whole bunch of "duh" warnings on them. Like don't let your kid play with the plastic bag this product came in. Duh. Don't ingest this cleaning product. Duh. Don't purposely inhale this aerosol. Duh. What depresses me is that the REASON these warnings exist is because people did stupid things and then sued the manufacturer with the claim that it never said NOT to do stupid things with the product. And with a talented attorney, that claim could actually win them money!

That affects all of us because it can drive up the price of products or even pull perfectly good items from the market because of liability concerns. If you've got issues that you know may cause you to use a product inappropriately, I think it's your responsibility to take precautions to keep yourself safe. The manufacturers can't be expected to anticipate every single misappropriation of their products. And the rest of us shouldn't have to bear the cost of the additional legal and liability protections for misuses that won't affect 99.5 percent of the people using the products.

I'm not saying the OP is irresponsible or does stupid things but I did sigh when I saw the suggestions that warnings should be included with the product. Please, no. That's the start of the slippery slope. It implies that there's something about the product that may create liability.

Going back to the OP it would seem no one else does have an issue with it and my suggestion that the sheath that came with the mouthpiece was to prevent such an occurence was just laughed at when it was suggested some time ago, and was told it was for sharing your ecigs with other people, and I have to say infection is a probably a bigger risk than a choking hazard, so there is a way to prevent it, but not enough people care.

[ToadCloud]

"If you've got issues that you know may cause you to use a product inappropriately, I think it's your responsibility to take precautions to keep yourself safe. The manufacturers can't be expected to anticipate every single misappropriation of their products. And the rest of us shouldn't have to bear the cost of the additional legal and liability protections for misuses that won't affect 99.5 percent of the people using the products."

I understand what you're saying teatime.. and I agree 100%.   In a perfect world people would have to take personal responsibility for what they do. But we don't live in a perfect world and corporations have to cover the old ass with all the stupid "don't do's" in order to keep from being sued. It's incredibly stupid for the most part... but that's the way it is. 

What gets me is instructions on shampoo bottles. Duh!



Keep it wet! 

[teatime]

ToadCloud,
I know. I just can't figure out when and how it went so crazy. Some friends and I were talking about how when we were kids, most of our toys were made out of metal, wood, and hard plastic and our playgrounds were concrete affairs with metal and wood play equipment. Hahaha, there wasn't any cushiony stuff beneath us and if we fell off the monkey bars, we got hurt. Oh well. No one sued the city. More often than not if we went home crying, our parents would ask us what stupid thing we did and told us we should have been more careful. Nowadays, the parents start thinking about who and how they can sue!

[blindsoup]

I am not a biter  - this has happened to me twice. As said previously in this thread, I pull them out now. To my surprise, it is a way better draw anyhow - Problem Solved!! 

[Knoton]

I have noticed that my transparent carts are very easy to with just a very light bite get that piece out. just a soft nibbling type of bite...
The black ones dont do that.
Could it be that there are different plastic materials being used with some carts?

[dasnk]

I have this with 510 carts, 901 carts, and Ego Tanks. I don't want extra warnings, I want them to not manufacture things with an obvious choking hazard, having the end removable serves no purpose and it should be manufactured as one sealed unit..

[Astrecks]

I have this with 510 carts, 901 carts, and Ego Tanks. I don't want extra warnings, I want them to not manufacture things with an obvious choking hazard, having the end removable serves no purpose and it should be manufactured as one sealed unit..

If it was possible to mould a cavity within a cavity then they would be moulded in one piece, if you can invent away to do this you could become a millionaire, in the meantime there is a protective silicone sheath provided with the eGo's.

[BAzz]

Or just remove the damn things and bin them.

I always remove the baffles now. Makes cleaning eaier, not sure if I'm getting any difference in draw.

The argument that you can get juice in your mouth make me laugh. Tried a smokeymizer? You;ll eat more than you vape.

Usually, if the juice is getting to the level where it's going to come up the airways to the mouthpiece you'll get a bubbling on the draw. Warning enough.

[Rtsjr]

I've never had a problem with these. I've dropped my tornado tank and it popped out but never into my mouth.
"You could always super glue the little plastic parts in!"

[pufferfish]

Or just remove the damn things and bin them.

I always remove the baffles now. Makes cleaning eaier, not sure if I'm getting any difference in draw.

The argument that you can get juice in your mouth make me laugh. Tried a smokeymizer? You;ll eat more than you vape.

Usually, if the juice is getting to the level where it's going to come up the airways to the mouthpiece you'll get a bubbling on the draw. Warning enough.

Bazz, have you tried using a drip tip on your smokeys? Keeps the condensate out of your mouth and if you release the battery button a second or two before the end of your draw, you'll get minimal condensate forming in the first place. 

[8Ball]

Or just remove the damn things and bin them.

I always remove the baffles now. Makes cleaning eaier, not sure if I'm getting any difference in draw.

The argument that you can get juice in your mouth make me laugh. Tried a smokeymizer? You;ll eat more than you vape.

Usually, if the juice is getting to the level where it's going to come up the airways to the mouthpiece you'll get a bubbling on the draw. Warning enough.

Bazz, have you tried using a drip tip on your smokeys? Keeps the condensate out of your mouth and if you release the battery button a second or two before the end of your draw, you'll get minimal condensate forming in the first place. 

Excellent advice Ms. Puff.  I only ever use the Smokys with drip tips and you can see the condensate building up well in advance of getting a mouth full.    .....I mean of eliquid!   Oh, you people need to grow up.

[drahcir]

I have this with 510 carts, 901 carts, and Ego Tanks. I don't want extra warnings, I want them to not manufacture things with an obvious choking hazard, having the end removable serves no purpose and it should be manufactured as one sealed unit..

the ends are removable so that if you get liquid down in that part you can take it off and clean it out. It very rarely will it get to that point because if you notice it getting to the first baffle then you can just blow it out but you cant do that if it gets to the second one.