10ML Bottle of Totally Wicked-Black Label Tobacco E-Liquid Tobacco flavour

[mufftrix]

I am trying to find an alternative now the titan fluid is going through changes?

I just got a 10ML Bottle of Totally Wicked-Black Label Tobacco E-Liquid -Tobacco flavour 18mg

I quite like this and wonder why/if it is available in 30ml bottles and is just out of stock? As it does not show in the list as an option on the 30ml ones?

Cheers!

[Dracul BlackWater]

how would you compare the BL Tobacco to the old TW Titan Tobacco? just curious because I am looking for replacements for their tobacco and menthol fluids as well. was it nutty or what? I don't like the RL Tobacco or the DV/BL Statex...

[mufftrix]

how would you compare the BL Tobacco to the old TW Titan Tobacco? just curious because I am looking for replacements for their tobacco and menthol fluids as well. was it nutty or what? I don't like the RL Tobacco or the DV/BL Statex...

It no where near as nice as the Titan but it passable? It has a bit heavier taste if that makes any sense? there is a slight nutty aftertaste but no where near the horrid statex :-)

After vaping it for a while I couldn't stand it all day? So it ok as a standby? It also seems almost VG in consistency as if a high ratio perhaps in mix?

It really annoying trying to find a replacement as all I vaped was Titan tobacco and the new replacement is a no go for me!

[Dracul BlackWater]

Yeah the Original Titan Menthol and Tobacco were my favorites...haven't been able to find anything close yet 

[mufftrix]

Nor me?    I have found some other juices I can vape instead, but nothing as yet as an all dayer like the Titan stuff?

I bit disappointed that there was no announcement so we could have at least stocked up?

[Dracul BlackWater]

Yea they gave subtle slips of info but no major announcement until it was too late basically 

[Killjoy]

It wasn't like the situation was planned, you know   I'm sure they didn't keep quiet about it for any longer than necessary while the transition was being made

[Dracul BlackWater]

This was the first notice given in the middle of a post...
The thread was locked so I couldn't quote it properly...


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Re: Larger bottle sizes for Titan juice?
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2011, 05:28:16 PM »
   
Titan 500mls, let me think about it, the TITAN fluid is getting a Facelift taste wise.

Joye are changing supplier, ive tested their new liquid and i like it..So watch this space..

[mufftrix]

It wasn't like the situation was planned, you know   I'm sure they didn't keep quiet about it for any longer than necessary while the transition was being made

Then why is there no notice anywhere to warn people that the juice recipe has changed?

I know several people who have ordered and received the new stuff without any warning! Which is poor to say the least!

I have been using TW since 2008 and always praise on other forums the service I have been given in the past, but this juice swapping has seriously changed my mind!

If it was say a coffee manufacturer, you could not just change the beans and say nothing hoping people would just not notice or drink it anyhow?

I only discovered the change by chance while browsing the forum a few weeks ago!

Tony sent me the new juice (tobacco) and I won't discuss it till the thread goes up? But all I will say is it is not the same in any respect!

[Pit Vaper]

@mufftrix,  If I remember correctly they did say that this was an interim supplier until Joye procures a permanent supplier, and that may or may not be the supplier of the fluids we are taste testing at this time.

P.S.  Here is the BL 30ml Tobacco flavor eliquid you mentioned in your original post, plenty in stock    http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/totally-wicked-eliquid/twblack-label-tobacco-eliquid/30ml-bottle-of-totally-wicked-black-2-2-product.html

[mufftrix]

@mufftrix,  If I remember correctly they did say that this was an interim supplier until Joye procures a permanent supplier, and that may or may not be the supplier of the fluids we are taste testing at this time.

P.S.  Here is the BL 30ml Tobacco flavor eliquid you mentioned in your original post, plenty in stock    http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/totally-wicked-eliquid/twblack-label-tobacco-eliquid/30ml-bottle-of-totally-wicked-black-2-2-product.html

Thanks but UK site does not have the option and neither does the USA link you provided?

tobacco as per 10ml is the flavour I was asking about? Unless it called real tobacco but in 10ml it just called tobacco???

I not mentioned the taste of Titan that was sent to me as it is irrelevant to the point that I was making about disclosure?

It was changed and there is still nothing on either websites that warns you it has been changed ?

[Pit Vaper]

I did assume the Real Tobacco is what you were refering too, and it still may be the same thing, Kirsty said there are some issues with eliquid naming and their supposed to be working on it.  Maybe Kirsty can verify if it's the same or not.  

[mufftrix]

I did assume the Real Tobacco is what you were refering too, and it still may be the same thing, Kirsty said there are some issues with eliquid naming and their supposed to be working on it.  Maybe Kirsty can verify if it's the same or not.  

No problem! Thank's for taking time to look anyhow :-)

It just that the 10ml are to expensive to use all time? And hoping that there is/will be a 30ml option?

On UK website there is no tobacco in 30ml whatsoever except real tabs which is I believe a different product?

Hopefully someone from team will clarify soon?

[caz]

I am trying to find an alternative now the titan fluid is going through changes?

I just got a 10ML Bottle of Totally Wicked-Black Label Tobacco E-Liquid -Tobacco flavour 18mg

I quite like this and wonder why/if it is available in 30ml bottles and is just out of stock? As it does not show in the list as an option on the 30ml ones?

Cheers!

Hi Mufftrix

As far as I know there are two different types of tobacco in the Black Label,  one is Real Tabs and the other one is just labelled tobacco,  Only Real Tabs is currently available in the 30 ml bottles,  both are available in 10ml bottles.  Both are available in the Flavour Concentrates.

Real Tabs -  A light anolog Tobacco Flavour with well rounded woody and smokey notes.
Tobacco -  Medium smoky, with sun-cured burley notes

[mufftrix]

Cheers Caz 

I thought this may be the case and have planned ahead by ordering a few concentrates over the weekend :-)

Will report back after a few mixing type experiments 

[caz]

Cheers Caz 

I thought this may be the case and have planned ahead by ordering a few concentrates over the weekend :-)

Will report back after a few mixing type experiments 

No problem   have fun with the mixing 

[Carol_Scot]

@mufftrix,  If I remember correctly they did say that this was an interim supplier until Joye procures a permanent supplier, and that may or may not be the supplier of the fluids we are taste testing at this time.

P.S.  Here is the BL 30ml Tobacco flavor eliquid you mentioned in your original post, plenty in stock    http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/totally-wicked-eliquid/twblack-label-tobacco-eliquid/30ml-bottle-of-totally-wicked-black-2-2-product.html

I  2nd,  what Mick says, this should have been on the TW front page or on the Juice page
I also don't what to talk about the juice here,  as we are waiting to post about them
Carol

[KirstyTW]

Hi guys,

Sorry to hear that you're all so frustrated.

I can confirm there has been no changes made to the Black Label Range and would like to assure you that we will do our up most to notify you, our customers, of any changes to our E.Liquids or products in the future.

In the mean time if you should have any problems please contact me directly so that we can resolve them quickly.

Thank you,
Kirsty

[wannakickit]

The red label "Virginia" 11mg has a nice tobacco taste, dunno how it compares to the Black label "Tobacco" juice.

[Nick OTeen]

The Black Label Tobacco is a fairly new introduction, so I guess TW are testing the waters with the 10ml size - if it sells well, there's no reason we can't supply it in 30ml bottles (though there'll need to be new labels printed etc. before that can happen.)

[mufftrix]

Hi guys,

Sorry to hear that you're all so frustrated.

I can confirm there has been no changes made to the Black Label Range and would like to assure you that we will do our up most to notify you, our customers, of any changes to our E.Liquids or products in the future.

In the mean time if you should have any problems please contact me directly so that we can resolve them quickly.

Thank you,
Kirsty

Thank you Kirsty but it a bit of the old gate and horse bolted scenario?

I have been shopping with TW since 2008 and If I hadn't been browsing the forum would have been none the wiser to the change?

I think the least that should be done is that there should be some kind of message to tell people that the recipe/supplier for Titan juices has been changed? And will be changed again?

I am sure there will be a lot more scenarios of people ordering there usual juices in the near future that will suddenly discover it isn't what they expect?

Surely for ease on your side as much as the consumer it makes sense to announce the change?

I still will, and do use TW as I like the products? But feel this is a BIG oversight to just leave customers in the cold on a substantial change to a product?

[Carol_Scot]

I still says what about the buyers that don't read the boards
I ever phoned TW,  and i was told the juice was old stock, so i done a order i didn't need
and was still sent new bottles ?
i have been fix out now, but if i was told it was new stock ,  the money would still be in my pocket ,
i also hope this is all fixed out before i run out , cause i been around all the juice and i spent £,£££
getting some thing i could vape all day

Carol

[wannakickit]

Have people really got themselves hung up on just one flavour, I thought nicotine replacement was the issue?

[mufftrix]

Have people really got themselves hung up on just one flavour, I thought nicotine replacement was the issue?

Hi wannakickit

that the same as saying you might as well produce one sort of cigarette? Why so many brands it only nicotine we need?

Everyone different and has likes and dislikes just the same as your favourite brand of cigs?

When you are vaping something all day long every day, you want something that mimicks or at least is pleasurable as smoking while satisfying the nicotine craving? You wouldn't vape something that tasted like burnt plastic? But the next person may love the taste? I know that an extreme but you see my point I hope?

If it not a pleasent taste there would be no point in vaping besides the maybe not as bad for you as cigs???

After vaping for 3 years and am sure many others will agree? There is so much liquid that is not say we say very palatable? It is nice to find something that you can happily use all the time and not have to look for any other liquids!

[Astrecks]

The truth thats shows within these threads that there are a limited number of  people that have littered many threads with a heated debate on the change in the Titan range, I don't have a dog in the fight, as I loathe anything menthol and Titan tobacco is just a passing nostalgic flavour that has been surpassed by many more worthwhile flavours in my opinion.

I'm sure I speak for many people that don't stick to a staple daily vape and like me prefer to mix their flavour regime to keep vaping interesting that these threads are getting too long in the tooth.

Although I agree that it would have been better to notify people of an impending flavour change, I can't see what difference it would have made except that a few people in a healthier financial  state would have fought to buy up the existing stock at the expense of those less well off and the Titan flavours would have still disapeared forever. I believe TW are accepting the return of Titan liquid that does not meet the standards of the complainents. It's a shame people like to continue to make mischief either here or on other forums and that whinging has become a British national sport, and I'm begining to wonder if there is more to this debate than just annoyed Titan users and that some people just don't like to see a friendly forum.

In my two and a half years of vaping I've seen many recipe changes and flavours dropped with much less fuss. I know it's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to see a line drawn underneath this nonsense 

[hachieroger]

The truth thats shows within these threads that there are a limited number of  people that have littered many threads with a heated debate on the change in the Titan range, I don't have a dog in the fight, as I loathe anything menthol and Titan tobacco is just a passing nostalgic flavour that has been surpassed by many more worthwhile flavours in my opinion.

I'm sure I speak for many people that don't stick to a staple daily vape and like me prefer to mix their flavour regime to keep vaping interesting that these threads are getting too long in the tooth.

Although I agree that it would have been better to notify people of an impending flavour change, I can't see what difference it would have made except that a few people in a healthier financial  state would have fought to buy up the existing stock at the expense of those less well off and the Titan flavours would have still disapeared forever. I believe TW are accepting the return of Titan liquid that does not meet the standards of the complainents. It's a shame people like to continue to make mischief either here or on other forums and that whinging has become a British national sport, and I'm begining to wonder if there is more to this debate than just annoyed Titan users and that some people just don't like to see a friendly forum.

In my two and a half years of vaping I've seen many recipe changes and flavours dropped with much less fuss. I know it's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to see a line drawn underneath this nonsense 

Good point Jeff....I see it as an opportunity to finally get into mixing...I'm just waiting on the reviews of the RL concentrates so I can make an order 

[mufftrix]

The truth thats shows within these threads that there are a limited number of  people that have littered many threads with a heated debate on the change in the Titan range, I don't have a dog in the fight, as I loathe anything menthol and Titan tobacco is just a passing nostalgic flavour that has been surpassed by many more worthwhile flavours in my opinion.

I'm sure I speak for many people that don't stick to a staple daily vape and like me prefer to mix their flavour regime to keep vaping interesting that these threads are getting too long in the tooth.

Although I agree that it would have been better to notify people of an impending flavour change, I can't see what difference it would have made except that a few people in a healthier financial  state would have fought to buy up the existing stock at the expense of those less well off and the Titan flavours would have still disapeared forever. I believe TW are accepting the return of Titan liquid that does not meet the standards of the complainents. It's a shame people like to continue to make mischief either here or on other forums and that whinging has become a British national sport, and I'm begining to wonder if there is more to this debate than just annoyed Titan users and that some people just don't like to see a friendly forum.

In my two and a half years of vaping I've seen many recipe changes and flavours dropped with much less fuss. I know it's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to see a line drawn underneath this nonsense 

That is your opinion and it may be nonsense to you? But not stating a change of recipe on the website surely is not good practice?

As you strangely put it? "you don't have a dog in the fight"

But if it was something that affected you? Surely the reason for a forum is to raise the subject in an adult manner? Not using childish put down's like like you seem to favour? (make mischief,whinging has become a British national sport,this nonsense)

whinging has become a British national sport ? and so is British putting up with crap and saying nothing!

If it only a subtle change fair enough, but the juice is totally different, and while some individuals like to swap flavours, there are many more that after trying a great many at a lot of ££ find there perfect vape and stick to one flavour?

As a moderator I would have thought you would have had more decorum than to suggest people that are clearly upset about the change are just whinging? It has nothing to do with a friendly forum? If you can't air your views and want a place where everything is rosy and nice then perhaps you should delete all the threads that do not meet your nice friendly forum standards?

I don't want this thread turning into a battle of wills or a fire fight? It just something that I think could have been handled so much better and was airing my views on the matter?

Jason as always had my respect in the way he built his business up, and I know some seem to resent this?

But I am not one of these people, and have been using TW for 3 years and will continue to do so! In fact I have sided with TW on other forums saying that they offer good value and service etc!

I have spent a lot of money on the products over this time, It not much to ask to be at least informed of something that may not bother you but does many others?

The bottom line is that I am now spending more money again trying to find a juice I can use all day, and although no fault of TW and out of there control? It is just the way I had to find out by a off hand comment and not a official email or similar?

If I hadn't been reading the forum I would of bought the new juice like so many more will? Many do not read forums, so unless it sells in small quantities it will be more than a limited amount of people? And that is the main point! It not trying to cause trouble, just to state that the recipe may differ as a side note on the website would benefit all?

I will now go back to naughty child corner for airing my views? and sorry if I have upset anyone who want's "a friendly forum"

[Carol_Scot]

I   2nd that Mick,  one small email to let us know would have been nice

Carol

[Astrecks]

Mick, I have no intention of flaming this thread, I'll leave flaming to other forums in which I have no interest, as a moderator I, like you are entiled to an opinion, I was annoyed that yet another thread was hijacked over the Titan flavour discussion, the whole thing as been discussed to the nth degree, and there is no feasible resolution, TW got it wrong and have hopefully learned by it, for the reasons stated in my previous post I had made little if any previous comments on the subject, I won't be making any further comments on it.

[mufftrix]

Mick, I have no intention of flaming this thread, I'll leave flaming to other forums in which I have no interest, as a moderator I, like you are entiled to an opinion, I was annoyed that yet another thread was hijacked over the Titan flavour discussion, the whole thing as been discussed to the nth degree, and there is no feasible resolution, TW got it wrong and have hopefully learned by it, for the reasons stated in my previous post I had made little if any previous comments on the subject, I won't be making any further comments on it.

well like you say the subject may have been discussed, but my only issue is the lack of any proper announcement over the whole thing?

I would have thought any company would rather limit things like this by being open?  And announcing the change? This was and is my only issue but have had my rant, and as the saying goes spilt milk and all that? So as far as im concerned there no point dragging the subject out anymore?

I have ordered various concentrates so hopefully there be something in there that will be to my liking?

[Astrecks]

I have ordered various concentrates so hopefully there be something in there that will be to my liking?

Cool, well I do genuinely hope you find a good flavour

Catch you at Vapefest if ya goin'

[wannakickit]

I have ordered various concentrates so hopefully there be something in there that will be to my liking?

Er. . . . . I'll have whatever isn't to your liking mate. . . . . so far my favourite is banana/menthol mixed 50/50, I'm calling it "Mental Banana", I mean I'll vape almost any flavour and don't understand why one would be so hung up on just the one. Isn't that making things a little difficult?

[mufftrix]

I have ordered various concentrates so hopefully there be something in there that will be to my liking?

Er. . . . . I'll have whatever isn't to your liking mate. . . . . so far my favourite is banana/menthol mixed 50/50, I'm calling it "Mental Banana", I mean I'll vape almost any flavour and don't understand why one would be so hung up on just the one. Isn't that making things a little difficult?

Not going through this all again ha-ha! 

Some people like to vape flavours? Would you have smoked a banana cigarette?

Well I'm pretty sure you wouldn't? But hey Each to there own I suppose 

I prefer Tobacco flavours and Titan was one I vaped all day so didn't need to buy anything else, and it really as simple as that 

[Dracul BlackWater]

we're never gonna make them understand how traumatic this is to us....we loved the original titan fluid...it was our staple vape...they could care less because it meant nothing to them...but if all their favorites were gone or made to taste like something they couldn't vape then they might understand but beyond that its a waste of time. yes were pissed and sad but there is nothing that TW could have done about it in the long run we will either find something else to suffice or sadly may stop vaping...I know I thought about it... but I am still trying to find replacements even though I know I will probably never find anything that satisfied me as much as titan menthol and tobacco.  I am still hopeful though

[Customer Service Rep (UK)]

Hi mufftrix,

I'd recommend you called our main offices on 0845 602 9661. We will be able to discuss the matter in more detail with yourself.

As stated previously, we will make sure that we inform all our customers in the future.

Thanks,
Kirsty

[mufftrix]

Hi mufftrix,

I'd recommend you called our main offices on 0845 602 9661. We will be able to discuss the matter in more detail with yourself.

As stated previously, we will make sure that we inform all our customers in the future.

Thanks,
Kirsty

Hi Kirsty thanks for the offer but I nothing new to add? (and 0845 costs me money!)

I think enough has been said now on subject? It water under the bridge or juice in this case ha-ha!

I had my say? And other people keep adding stupid comments? If I wanted to vape bananna then I would of not been posting about what started out as a question on concentrates?

You are welcome to lock this thread if you like? To stop any more bananna comments 

Or if you would like to discuss it you have my contact number on your records?

Thank's Mick

[Dracul BlackWater]

you can lock your own threads...the lock is at the bottom left of the page

[mufftrix]

you can lock your own threads...the lock is at the bottom left of the page

So you can shows how often I use the forum ha-ha!

thank's  Dracul!

Tis done!