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« on: June 02, 2010, 12:40:20 AM »

I read in another post that the 801 is being phased out. With the new wicked stick (I ordered one cause I'm an 801 fanboy), will you guys be selling the 302 atomizers or will I be forced to use the adaptor and move over to the 510? I ask only because there are no 302 atomizer's anywhere available on the TW website.  I've never used a 510 and am sure they are great, but I bought the Wicked Stick to replace my 801 penstyle in hopes that 302's would show up for sale in bulk on your site. 

My Wicked Stick should be here Wednesday and I'm kind of excited but also a little worried now.

Thanks for any clarification

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 01:00:37 AM »

BuLLgOd, I just had a quick look on the US site, the 302 atties are available as singles in the Wicked Stick section and are listed as 302/801 atties, also the 801 multi packs are listed in the Penstyle Accessories section.

http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/stick-e-nic-accesories/302-wicked-stick-atomizer-product.html

http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/pen-style-standard-801-accessories/5-x-black-801-electronic-cigarette-pen-product.html
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 01:12:38 AM »

I can't see TW stopping stocking 801 atties while there's demand for them (and there are plenty of folks out there still using them with penstyles, minipipes and sticks.) TW's UK sister company TECC has a wider range of 801 parts, though I don't think they currently have a US distributor Sad
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 03:52:35 AM »

It would just be nice to see a firm "Go with the 302 atty" or "Stick with the 801 atty and some validation that either or will always be available as long as the wicked stick is being distributed,  It's just slightly confusing advertising 302 atty's alongside 801 attys... especially reading that the 801's are being phased out,  If I'm to stick with the 801 atty's thats fine. I'd just like soemeting official regarding this, like" 801's for now, we will carry 302's eventualy in multi packs."
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010, 06:39:55 AM »

Just a note here, just learned tonight that the Wicked stick and the TW 801 atty's don't play well together. I was able to make them work using the staple mod method as advised by forum members but if your looking for ease of use make sure to keep it to a 302, the 510 connection that comes with a kit or it may take a little more effort when you change atty's.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 06:43:23 PM »

Just a note here, just learned tonight that the Wicked Stick and the TW 801 atty's don't play well together. I was able to make them work using the staple mod method as advised by forum members but if your looking for ease of use make sure to keep it to a 302, the 510 connection that comes with a kit or it may take a little more effort when you change atty's.

Yep, i can confirm that TW's 801 (i have 10) don't work with the Wicked Stick. The original 801 from Janty (from JS v2) does, "out-of-the-box". Can't speak about the mod cuz i'm not going to try it. I'll probably just sell or hand-down the JS with the other 10 attys so to not have any 'mod hassle' heh.

ps. Along with the WS i ordered 3 PI bottles. Instead of the bonus 3 5ml dropper bottles and the pen what i was really hoping for was a 5x pack of 510 carts, cuz sadly i never got around to read (my bad bad, i know..) the fine print stating they weren't included.

The wall charger (uk adapter not needed in my case - one thing that could have saved you a few quid heh) and the Xatomizer 501 Adaptor (which i won't be able to use for the reason previously stated) where incredibly awesome additions and I don't miss the JS pouch (still have one anyway, even if i did) at all since V3 is rubberized now, so no risk of scratches of any kind now.. the size is a bit smaller, which is great and finally i can have 2 batts charging at the same time (3 if count the old JS).

All in all i'm extremely happy with the WS, finally a smallish and rugged e-cig that i can carry without worrying about batts.. just hope the PI color issue i posted gets 'clarified', pardon the pun.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 04:12:36 PM »

I had a post get deleted... I guess because I linked to  an offsite google search so I'll try to argue my case differently this time as I am not trying to cause trouble. I am wanting to spend money. Thats a good thing right?  I'd prefer spend it at TW....

The US TW site advertises one particular atomizer as a 302/801 atomizer and the UK TW site advertises basically the same but distinctly as a 302 atomizer. From reading users posts, the TW 801 atomizer does not work with the Wicked Stick without using some mod.  I know it seems like a simple case of semantics but for me, as a consumer, I want to know if the 302/801 atomizer is indeed a 302 or an 801. Similarities aside, they are two distinct products therefore could you please clarify what product is being sold on the US site?  Is it indeed manufactured as a 302? Or is it manufactured as an 801? If the 801's not working with the Wicked Stick then I don't want to waste my money or go through the trouble with returns, etc...   I would strongly suggest if it is indeed a 302, the US site reflect that. especially if early adapting user reports are coming in that the TW 801's aren't working with the Wicked Stick.  (Mine will be here this afternoon so I'll soon know as well).  I held out from buying a multi pack of 801's because something didn't feel right. Everyone seemed confused about the 302 and the 801 since they appear so similar.  

Us site ---> http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/stick-e-nic-accesories/302-wicked-stick-atomizer-product.html
 UK site ---> http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/stick-e-nicaccessories/302-wicked-stick-atomizer-product.html

I just want clarification so I can order the right part from TW. I am trying to spend money with Totally Wicked.

I hope this makes sense and I hope this isn't taken as an argument or complaint. I'm just asking for clarification.
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 04:34:25 PM »

I want to know if the 302/801 atomizer is indeed a 302 or an 801.

Is a 302, maybe TW add the 801 to refer as a 801 style. As in the RN4075 that is sell as a 901 when is not a 901. You can buy the atty in the Wicked Stick section and hope we get the multipack in the near future but dont buy it the TW801 if you want it to use with the Wicked Stick.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 05:22:19 PM »

Hi BuLLg0d

Nandy is correct,  the US link in your post leads to the correct 302 atomiser for the wicked stick which is located in the wicked stick section.  The TW 801 atomisers are in a different section altogether and they have the red logo on them.  The 302 atomisers do not have the logo on them.  Just buy from the Wicked Stick accessories section and you will be safe  Wink   Hope this helps.  


I'm sure the TW Team will be along soon to clarify this   Grin
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 08:08:56 PM »

Thanks guys and..... Wicked Stick came in the mail today -  I just put my Wicked stick together and the FIRST thing I did was plug my old TW 801 atty into it to see if I got vapor and it worked so my results are positive. My older 801's work with the Wicked Stick.  I'll be buying 302's from now on though.  Thanks TW for an awesome product... This thing is TINY but vapes like a big ole 801. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2010, 08:32:53 PM »

Oh this thing is sweet!




Sorry, camera phone pic... I just wanted to show its size AND the cool red glow when the usb pass through is attached.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2010, 12:22:48 AM »

Hi BuLLg0d

I am a little unsure about this one however I will check first thing in the morning! I have not yet had a chance to use the Wicked Stick so I cannot say either way. They do look very similar to the 801 however if others have tried it and failed then I can understand your concern and confusion. I will grab both the Wicked Stick and an 801 atomizer tomorrow and see if they are compatible.

I will post on here tomorrow to advise and correct either the UK or US site depending on the outcome!

Thanks
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 01:29:34 AM »

Hi BuLLg0d

I am a little unsure about this one however I will check first thing in the morning! I have not yet had a chance to use the Wicked Stick so I cannot say either way. They do look very similar to the 801 however if others have tried it and failed then I can understand your concern and confusion. I will grab both the Wicked Stick and an 801 atomizer tomorrow and see if they are compatible.

I will post on here tomorrow to advise and correct either the UK or US site depending on the outcome!

Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2010, 03:04:29 PM »

Hey BuLLg0d

I am so sorry I didnt reply on Friday. It completely slipped my mind. I have tested our 801 Pen Style atty's with the Wicked Stick and they fit perfectly. You obviously need to remove the adaptor that comes with for the 510 but please feel free to order our 801 pen style atomizer's and I guarantee you they will work with our Wicked Stick!

Thanks
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2010, 01:11:50 AM »

Thanks Alex!

I've fallen in love with the 302 though. I can't wait for the 302 multi packs.   Grin
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2011, 10:40:01 PM »

I had the impression that the 302 and 801 atomizers were identical in every way unless there's a vent or hole somewhere I don't know about..
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 02:47:18 PM »

I had the impression that the 302 and 801 atomizers were identical in every way unless there's a vent or hole somewhere I don't know about..

Getting TW 801's to work with a stick I have discovered is a very hit and miss affair.

I have 4 sticks and 2 will work with them and 2 won't  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2011, 03:38:07 PM »

Yeah, I kindo noticed that too but I thought there were incostincies in the machining of the atomizers.  I'm doing alright with the 801 atomizers but sometimes I have to really sock it up tight to get it to fire up.  I have three sticks but one of them don't work at all with the tw atomizers.  . 
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2011, 03:51:03 PM »

Yeah, I kindo noticed that too but I thought there were incostincies in the machining of the atomizers.  I'm doing alright with the 801 atomizers but sometimes I have to really sock it up tight to get it to fire up.  I have three sticks but one of them don't work at all with the tw atomizers.  . 

I have a place for homeless 801's, and I don't charge for their upkeep  Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2011, 12:33:51 AM »

The more i read about the stick and attys , the more confused i get grrr suppose i'll just have to stick to the 510 !
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2011, 12:47:34 AM »

The more i read about the stick and attys , the more confused i get grrr suppose i'll just have to stick to the 510 !
Well, if you don't want to use 801's or 302's in the stick you can use your 510's with the adapter that's included in the kit.  Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2011, 01:53:03 PM »

I ordered a 5 pack of 801's for my wicked stick and I can tell you my findings. There is a difference in the 302 and 801 atty's. The difference is in the length of them. The 302 is shorter than the 801. At least with the atty's that was sold to me by TW. Laying them side by side and lining up the bands at the bottom of the atty's, I notice that the band on the 801 was almost an eighth of an inch longer that the 302 that came with my WS. This is enough to keep the atty from being powered up when you press the button. Also, the overall length of the body tube of the 801 atty is a little longer than the 302 so if you use 302 carts on it, they don't seat all the way into the atty and may cause the atty to run dry prematurely if you use a cartridge.

I know there are some simple ways of making them work, but what I did was what I think was a better overall solution in my case. Basically, I used a belt sander to grind the bottom band down to the same length as the 302 and then used a dremel with cut off wheel to cut the tube body to also match that of the 302. Checking o make sure there wasn't any metal shavings that made its way into the atty, attached it to my wicked stick along with a freshly topped of 302 cart, it worked great. I used it for a whole day like this and it doesn't run dry early. I promptly did the same thing with my remaining 4 801's. Keep in mind that I don't use a drip tube, if I did use one, I wouldn't have worried about cutting off the top of the body tube of the atty.
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