Dual Coil Tank

[lordy]

Definitely not your guy with tobacco flavours. Pretty much all others, I'd love to get involved. Take a look at my reviews - I know there are some veteran taste panelists in the forums so I won't be offended if I don't get the call

[ean33]

Definitely not your guy with tobacco flavours. Pretty much all others, I'd love to get involved. Take a look at my reviews - I know there are some veteran taste panelists in the forums so I won't be offended if I don't get the call

i would be shocked if i got one.......the phone was cut of before xmas 

[pillbox38]

ean33>>> This is the companies biggest project by year end i want TW to be producing only our own fluids, using our own flavours using Uk sourced Pharma Nicotine and dilutents.

We have all suppliers in place its now building the jigsaw from there.

The customers input is essential and Lordy its all flavours not just tobacco, but the tobacco flavours will be first.

Once ready i will arrange a proper thread with more accurate plans for the project and then we will find the panellists, but it will involve days up here cant be done by mail, we need to meet as a group.

[terrier]

Even if it was something like ToRpeDo or TOrpEdO something like that keeps with the TW styling but does away with the obvious

prefer the 2nd but try working on making the EDO more like the EGO, I have and can't, best was Torp-EDO

terrier

[lordy]

 I know you're a way off deciding taste panellists but this is the type of thing I'd happily take a few days holiday for. Anyway, I'll consider my interest registered

Been excited about the new flavour ranges since you first mentioned you would be rivalling DV - can't wait to see them on sale:)

[Knoton]

Sorry to go back to the original post in the middle of this very very interesting conversation 
But my gotta have shiny syndrome has struck again and I am fighting it hard to not fall for it.
I am of course curious about the dual coil tanks 
I read they are only 1.5 ohm, with other low resistance products I have found to be way to harsh for
my throat. Is it the same with those?
Has anyone tried them yet and can give a review? Maybe I am blind and have not seen it... very possible
been quite busy lately...
The webpage doesnt say anything how to fill them, use them and so on... I miss a instructional video to look at.

[Killjoy]

Knoton, if you've tried the dual coil cartomizers, then you already know exactly how the tanks vape    The only difference that the tank makes is basically to significantly expand the capacity of the carto so you don't need to "top up" several times throughout the day.  If you tend to vape just one flavor for a good while, they're an excellent option, or you can carry an extra tank of another flavor with you and switch back and forth

Again, I have to give kudos to Jason and TW for keeping up with the current trends in vaping.  I love the colors on the new tanks (just ordered two of them to add to my collection) and these are the first ones I've seen with polypropylene tubes.  I'm very eager to check 'em out

[Klinux]

I've been hunting round the forum and tried to get an answer to this question, are the top and bottom chrome caps on the Tanks chrome aluminium or chrome coated plastic.

[lordy]

Pure speculation Klinux but I don't think TW would advertise as chrome then deliver chrome-plated plastic! The materials look the same as the drip tip so I'd suggest it's aluminium rather than plastic.

Pure speculation but I'd be surprised if I'm wrong!

[Stigmata]

If they are the same as those made by S*****ch(sorry cant say the brand as TW gets funny) and they look very much like it,then they are a chrome plated alloy much like the stuff the Screwdriver is made from and not stainless( after having a look on a few forums),either way whatever the metal they should last for years as O rings can be replaced and the tanks should last years due to the material they are made from.
Even Delrin last a fair while,my clearo tank is 4 months old and still looks can acts as new and at £12 to £15  is a steal ,shame the postage costs bump them up to near on £20 shipped

my two should be here tomorrow with luck,and my HR carto's came today

[Stigmata]

My 2 tanks came today,i can say the brand now as its said in the instructions,Smoktech,so i was correct.
They are indeed some form of chromed alloy not plastic or stainless.
I bought 2 clears versions 3.6ml & 6ml,they appear okish build quality.
The 6ml one has a large scratch down the hole where the Carto slides in on the upper end cap,but the O ring looks ok (time will tell) that's mass produced in China for you.
The 3.6ml tank is slightly shorter than the 6ml tank by around 3mm ,but this could be variations on the length of the plastic tubing or by design,either way not an issue.
For the money they are worth it as i think they look better than the Delrin versions you can get in this price range,and have a choice of 8 colours,but cant compete with a £40 tank,but in fairness you cant expect them too.

The included drip tips are a bit on the cheap side are made from super light weight aluminium and are a very loose fit,but a nice stainless steel ming drip tip will cost around the same price as the tank kits,so can't expect that ,but imo a pawn style drip tip would have been better as it would help stop the tank sliding up.

Standard XL Carto's fit perfect and the Plinths work just as well stopping the tank sliding down as the flange does,so will be using HR Carto's in mine once i've finished with the included ones just remember to dot your stock carto's in the right place


Overall i think they are worth the price,just TW needs to stock normal & HR Cartos for those with VV mods.
i rate the 3.6ml 9/10 .point dropped for a cheap drip tip & not a pawn style
6ml one 6/10 due to the scratch,really cant be arsed call TW,send it back,wait for inspection and a new one sent out.

scratch across the O ring  http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/992/scratchw.jpg

[tez77]

The included drip tips are a bit on the cheap side are made from super light weight aluminium and are a very loose fit,but a nice stainless steel ming drip tip will cost around the same price as the tank kits,so can't expect that ,but imo a pawn style drip tip would have been better as it would help stop the tank sliding up.

My drip tip fits perfectly, in fact a little tight at the moment. I totally agree with the pawn style tip to avoid the tank sliding up but I'll wait and see how much of a problem that turns out to be before I order one.

Standard XL Carto's fit perfect and the Plinths work just as well stopping the tank sliding down as the flange does,so will be using HR Carto's in mine once i've finished with the included ones just remember to dot your stock carto's in the right place

I have 510 XL DC cartos and I couldn't them to fit, I will have to try again when I make it home.

[Stigmata]

i guess different O rings from different batch's are used as i cant see it being the tip at fault, one is only slightly loose so usable,the other is very loose no matter what Atty i try it in ,but not an issue as they will be for backups as i have others.

Cant really say where i got my XL Cartos from as it wasn't TW as i wanted higher than 1.5 resistance.

luckily the scratch didn't damage the O ring so is a cosmetic issue that cant be seen and no doubt will get more than that in its life, overall im happy with them.

The Plinths are a must buy,I really really like the way they finish everything off,i bought 2x 6mm, 1x 3.6mm and they look great on my Clearo tank as well as the DCT's,can bin my cut down Ego cone now.

how cool do these look with the plinths http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1668/modsy.jpg  Torpedo not shown

[tez77]

i guess different O rings from different batch's are used as i cant see it being the tip at fault, one is only slightly loose so usable,the other is very loose no matter what Atty i try it in ,but not an issue as they will be for backups as i have others.

Cant really say where i got my XL Cartos from as it wasn't TW as i wanted higher than 1.5 resistance.

luckily the scratch didn't damage the O ring so is a cosmetic issue that cant be seen and no doubt will get more than that in its life, overall im happy with them.

The Plinths are a must buy,I really really like the way they finish everything off,i bought 2x 6mm, 1x 3.6mm and they look great on my Clearo tank as well as the DCT's,can bin my cut down Ego cone now.

how cool do these look with the plinths http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1668/modsy.jpg  Torpedo not shown

When I remember where I left my vernier caliper I'll double check the diameters rather than continue to try and force the XL DC into the tank

The plinths are great, unfortunately I didn't get a plinth for the 3.5, could have sworn I ordered but the one that came was for the 6ml, no biggie, I ordered more 3.5ml tanks anyway so there's one winging its way to me.

The do look lovely, possibly the best looking piece of equipment in my collection. I noticed that the TW logo has flaked off after just one day (which is perfect for me as I prefer to not have the logo on my kit).

[terrier]

If they are the same as those made by S*****ch(sorry cant say the brand as TW gets funny) and they look very much like it,then they are a chrome plated alloy much like the stuff the Screwdriver is made from and not stainless( after having a look on a few forums),either way whatever the metal they should last for years as O rings can be replaced and the tanks should last years due to the material they are made from.
Even Delrin last a fair while,my clearo tank is 4 months old and still looks can acts as new and at £12 to £15  is a steal ,shame the postage costs bump them up to near on £20 shipped

my two should be here tomorrow with luck,and my HR carto's came today

I have said in another thread that I asked TW about the O rings and if you could change them,they didn't know but would find out, thanks for the info, just hopethat like your other one they are changeable.

terrier

[Killjoy]

I have 510 XL DC cartos and I couldn't them to fit, I will have to try again when I make it home.

Make sure you remove the black wrapper if they have it on them.  I haven't received my tanks yet, but if the cartos are a tight fit, then the wrappers will make them nearly impossible to insert.  Besides, you don't want the adhesive on them in your juice

I have said in another thread that I asked TW about the O rings and if you could change them,they didn't know but would find out, thanks for the info, just hopethat like your other one they are changeable.

You should be able to change the o-rings just fine, as long as you have the right size for your replacements.  Couldn't tell you offhand what size they are, though

[tez77]

I have 510 XL DC cartos and I couldn't them to fit, I will have to try again when I make it home.

Make sure you remove the black wrapper if they have it on them.  I haven't received my tanks yet, but if the cartos are a tight fit, then the wrappers will make them nearly impossible to insert.  Besides, you don't want the adhesive on them in your juice

Even with the wrapper off (the best I could anyway, those things are stuck on like glue was going out of fashion ) its still not looking like it'll go in and I didnt want to risk damaging the o-rings by forcing it.

[Stigmata]

Mine fit ok, XL DC,510 and 901 are all the same diameter give or take a gnats ****,the one shown in the image used to have a black sticker ,but lighter petrol soon removes the glue.just wet a rag with it and wipe from the threads as you don't want any glue or petrol going down the opening (make sure its safe to have a rag wet with petrol so do outside and away from smokers and flames ),have been slowly replacing my black cartos with silver for the past few months.3 more black left.
its important to remove all traces of the glue as a very thin flim of it can remain making it snag,when totally clean add a bit of juice on it to lub it up it slides in easy.then measure up ,make your hole and done,a lot of messing around really ,but is what i do best lol
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7520/xlcarto.jpg
i see what you mean,my TW branding is coming off too.

PS.,if TW don't want any more talk of this subject,lemmie know and ill stop .as i know other forums may be better suited for the DIY side of vaping.

[Killjoy]

Even with the wrapper off (the best I could anyway, those things are stuck on like glue was going out of fashion ) its still not looking like it'll go in and I didnt want to risk damaging the o-rings by forcing it.

Lol, yeah that adhesive is one of the most stubborn things I've ever come across   

One tip I've seen, but haven't actually tried myself, is to put the carto in the chuck of a drill (after peeling off the sticker) and take a piece of very fine sandpaper to it, then flip the carto around so you can get the other end that was in the chuck before.  Just don't clamp the drill's chuck on the connector, you don't want to ruin the threads

Another tip:  lube your o-rings before inserting the carto.  Just a small drop of juice or plain PG or VG smeared around the o-ring can make a big difference.  If you lube the o-rings they'll last longer, too, since they won't be stressed as much by the carto sliding against them.
That may not help you actually get that carto in, though.  The manufacturing tolerances are pretty loose on both the tank caps and the carto tubes.  All it takes is a couple thousandths of an inch interference to make them not go in.  I have a couple tanks that are a really tight fit on the carto, but have only once had a carto that absolutely wouldn't go in.  Fortunately, I have tanks that are a looser fit, too, so I just used it in one of those, instead

[JohnEAngel]

im scratching my head as to why you guys are talking about taking the paper off the dc cartos.  they should come with stainless steel cartos that have no wrap.  and if i may say at this point, for all of us who have graduated to non-filler cartos, the dc tanks perform pretty nicely.  some may say it's a step back but you have to credit the capacity.  as one who never got the the tank system to work to my satisfaction, i would take one of these dc tanks over the standard tanks. but that's just my opinion.  they hit very well.

[lordy]

im scratching my head as to why you guys are talking about taking the paper off the dc cartos.  they should come with stainless steel cartos that have no wrap.  and if i may say at this point, for all of us who have graduated to non-filler cartos, the dc tanks perform pretty nicely.  some may say it's a step back but you have to credit the capacity.  as one who never got the the tank system to work to my satisfaction, i would take one of these dc tanks over the standard tanks. but that's just my opinion.  they hit very well.

Indeed: http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/dual-coil-tank/dual-coil-tank-replacement-cartomizer-2-product.html

Interesting you think it's better than a standard tank! I'd just bought more C heads and flavoursthen a couple days latert his appeared on the site. Really like the idea of the convenience of these tanks - will just have to wait and see how well the cartos last before they need fiddly cleaning. That's the great thing about the standard tanks - in general it's much quicker to get it to perform again when performance starts to tail off.

Was hoping to have my DCT today but looks like it'll be Monday now can't wait to try it!

[tez77]

We are talking about the old dc cartos some of have a stockpile of. If they could be used in the dct  it would be really handy

[lordy]

We are talking about the old dc cartos some of have a stockpile of. If they could be used in the dct  it would be really handy

Okay I got ya! Was thinking that you hadn't seen the others for a minute...

[JohnEAngel]

another reason for removing the paper from any existing cartos is that they most likely will not fit properly within the o-rings.  sounds like a lot of work.  i removed one a while back and it was forever sticky.   

[Killjoy]

Yeah, that's one of the big reasons for removing the wrapper. 


My tanks arrived today, record shipping time!  I haven't used either one, yet, but I did check them out.  I saw a couple people mention their drip tips were loose, but both of mine were a good solid fit.  I have no prior experience with the Smoktech manufactured tanks and now that I've actually seen it in person I think the flange on the cartos really was a good idea.  I mentioned in another thread that I'd heard complaints elsewhere about the size of the punched hole and I understand that now, too.  I usually punch them a little bigger than that for best wicking of my juice (50% VG or more, and I don't dilute it with anything beyond my PG and flavoring), so will probably widen them just a little before use
These tank tubes are really slick, I like the feel of them.  And the colors are great!    I got both of the green ones and the pics on the site don't do either one justice, they're both much cooler in person

I have one point of minor confusion, though: 

One of the tanks had a little silicone ring packaged with it, about twice as thick as the upper ring in the clearos, but the other did not.  Is this silicone piece in the package for a reason or did it just accidentally get packaged in there by the manufacturer?  I ask because in all my carto tank experiences I've never seen something like this, but it was actually in the plastic bag right along with the tank

[Stigmata]

Yeah had the little white rubber things with mine. im guessing your meant to poke them down the carto to act as an extra seal like the clearo's have?.not used mine.
Something i noticed with my loose drip tip,they are odd ,a completely different design .the one with the countersunk hole is ok,the flat top tip is the useless one.
i guess smoktech supplying whatever they have kicking around. funnily enough the loose tip was the one that came with the scratched tank,think my 6ml dct is a Friday afternoon one

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8774/dtip.jpg

[terrier]

Hi killjoy,

mine just arrived as well, one 3.5 and one 6ml, both have the silicon washer in the package, never seen any mention of it in any threads or videos, WTF is it for.

I reckon but it's guessing it is meant to go inthe carto after priming, the shaped side goes downwards, it would the ensure the vape coming out of the central tube does not disperse into the small cavity area at the top of the wadding and is directed straight into the drip tip..

anyone else got any ideas.

having had a good look at them  I would not keep one im my pocket ot brief case etc. the ease with wgich the tank slides up the carto is disconcerting ( and that's when it's dry and empty), see exactly why people have recommened ming/pawn. tips,

I am going to see if my mate with an engineering shop can adapt one for me, I want a flange fitting to the drip tip that is the same diameter as the battery ,the outside edge will be threaded so that when the tank is not in use the cosmetic flange can be screwed on there to keep it with the tank, this extra flange will also help prevent tank sliding ( like a ming or pawn), but at the end of the day any of those is only as good as the tightness of the drip tip fit into the carto.

Anyway back to many query, come on someone tell us what the FFFFFlip  the little silicon washers are for.

terrier

[Kenneth131]

Iv not got this killjoy but I use cartos a lot and having used allot I would say you are right some come with a little plastic or silicone bung that you push into the carto. The pointed bit would go down the cartomizer core to ensure you get vapour and no liquid in your mouth. They work quite well especially if using a drip tip mouth piece

[terrier]

Hi all,

sp what happened when i tried them

First let me cover some background. i ahve said before my tase buds are wrecked, the only flavours I can readily recognise and appreciate are absynth, spearmint, lime ( but I have increase the lime to 20%). My normal mix is 50/50 pg/ag, inc 2mg /ml nic and 15% flavour.


so I went for the 3.5ml tank and doppio, a flavour i can barely taste but would love to. primed the carto with 25 drops and then filled the tank.

1st 20 or so puffs ( I take long gentle ones) produce loads of vapour, no noises (gurgling or crackling) but flavour no better than a CE3. Then suddenly I was getting noises like a CE3 with juice in the tube, got the odd bit in the mouth and next to no vapour?. As I had been chain vaping and it was very hot I put it to on side standing up and noticed the tank was probably just under 1/2 full already ?

30 mins later picked it up, it vaped as it had at the beginning, noise noises or juice, and I could taste the coffee. Over the next 3 hrs cContinued using it until the tank was empty, note the 2nd half lasted a lot longer, yes I wasn;t vaping as hard but it still lasted longer. I concluded that even though the carto was primed the on the 1st use it absorbs a lot of juice, next refill will confirm this.

also note that as the tank empties I have condensation on the inside, no one has mentioned this up to now.

Overall not the performance was not as sensational as I was hoping for but it is early days. certainly a very pleasant vape and one to continue with. 

terrier

[terrier]

update

I tinks der Shtout ish great in dem.

terrier