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« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2012, 01:11:25 PM » |
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Tez>> Its a valid concern, as you might know we are in the process of moving into our new premises, we have built within this our own dedicated bottling facility.
We are also costing out and about to procure a GCMS machine, this will allow us to independently test at will.
I expect within 8 weeks we will be in a position to run GCMS test on ours and any other fluids our customers require.
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« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2012, 01:17:46 PM » |
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Too funny Tez about not caring what was in those nasty analogs ~~ me too not caring, but caring now!
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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2012, 02:49:07 PM » |
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some analog fakes have had rat poo in which is scary. and the fact that TW discuss the testing procedure and are having the nic produced under their control is amazing from a control of quality point of view.
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« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2012, 03:52:54 PM » |
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I believe it's all a matter of choice...and it is...... I also believe that any one should be free to question any issue regarding a product they want to use / consume.... But at the end of the day, if they do not receive that information or are unhappy with the information they get...then move on and buy from another supplier..... Simples  |
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« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2012, 04:23:58 PM » |
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Tez>> Its a valid concern, as you might know we are in the process of moving into our new premises, we have built within this our own dedicated bottling facility.
We are also costing out and about to procure a GCMS machine, this will allow us to independently test at will.
I expect within 8 weeks we will be in a position to run GCMS test on ours and any other fluids our customers require.
Perfect, perfect and perfect So the immediate plan is to bottle RL in china using UK sourced nic, then at some point all RL will actually be bottled by yourselves in your new premises? |
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« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2012, 04:38:37 PM » |
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Tez>>.Everything will eventually be bottled by ourselves, we are planning this as our end goal, currently we have two flavour houses (UK) creating Tobacco Flavours for us. One has in excess of 5000 flavour concentrates:)
Off course we wont have or ever carry that many, lots going on but as the business matures we must and indeed wish to be masters of our own destiny.
In the interim we will start with Titanium Ice and Bottle our own Platinum Ice. The price will be better as we cut out the middleman.
Lots to do, but all doable. The testing facilities we will not have to buy in, once we own our own machines we can test at will.
I also want to offer customers the opportunity to send in for free analysis fluids they buy from other sellers. These tests are upwards of £150 each, but off course owning the GCMS makes it virtually manhour time only.
Things are maturing but its impossible to instantly create.. I hope Tw Customers can appreciate this.
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« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2012, 06:20:11 PM » |
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Tez>>.Everything will eventually be bottled by ourselves, we are planning this as our end goal, currently we have two flavour houses (UK) creating Tobacco Flavours for us. One has in excess of 5000 flavour concentrates:)
Off course we wont have or ever carry that many, lots going on but as the business matures we must and indeed wish to be masters of our own destiny.
In the interim we will start with Titanium Ice and Bottle our own Platinum Ice. The price will be better as we cut out the middleman. Thank you for this information, I feel much happier now that I know you guys are indeed taking this seriously and are actively doing something about it. Better prices are always a bonus too  I also want to offer customers the opportunity to send in for free analysis fluids they buy from other sellers. These tests are upwards of £150 each, but off course owning the GCMS makes it virtually manhour time only.
It would certainly be interesting to see how other liquids stack up, what is and isn't in them etc although personally I am only using your own liquid so I have no others to test. Its very good of you to potentially offer that service for free but if I did vape other liquids, I would be happy enough myself to pay a small fee towards testing to cover some manhours. Things are maturing but its impossible to instantly create.. I hope Tw Customers can appreciate this.
Indeed, I personally appreciate that big strides forward like this take some orchestrating and don't happen overnight and I'm sure the investment in GC-MS testing equipment is a large one. Just knowing that this is something that will be a non-issue in the future is good enough for me right now. Thanks again |
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« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2012, 06:22:42 PM » |
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The future with TW is looking brighter and brighter and not only because of all the shinys |
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« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2012, 02:58:20 AM » |
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Pillbox, good to hear you have decided to take a progessive approach by ordering testing equipment for future use. I feel this step may protect you, or a vapor, from accidental harm. Am also pleased that you are focussing on the development of your own bottling facilities.
I am sure all members would like to be kept updated on TW's progress in the above regard.
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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2012, 12:12:59 PM » |
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Amazing replies Jason thank you for such a detailed insight to what's going on at tw if anyone needed a reason to chose tw over other companies ...there's your answer. Really appreciate your reply Jason thanks
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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2012, 10:52:52 AM » |
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Rather than starting a new thread,thought i'd add the this one. just looking at the older news on TW main site and found the lab report that was done July 2009. http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/about-the-fluid/lab-reports.htmlthen i see something not right : Analysis of the Content of Totally Wicked ESmoking
Liquid supplied by Pill Box 38 (UK) LtdA sample of Totally Wicked ESmoking Liquid was supplied to Scientific Analysis Laboratories Limited, to determine the percentage level of nicotine it contained and other compounds present. The sample was analysed by Gas Chromatography – Mass Spectrometry. The sample supplied was a 30ml bottle of 36mg Super High eliquid. The Nicotine level was found to be : 1.8% (w/w). I thought 36mg equals 3.6% Nicotine yet the report finds only 1.8% Nicotine so its only 18mg. Any reason why its only half the labeled strength or am i doing the Math wrong ? Maybe someone in the know can clear things up for me ? Thx |
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« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2012, 11:03:21 AM » |
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I am not really sure but I think that refers to the total amount of nicotine in the sample.
1.8 % was pure nicotine.
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« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2012, 09:59:52 PM » |
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The sample supplied was a 30ml bottle of 36mg Super High eliquid.
The Nicotine level was found to be : 1.8% (w/w).
I thought 36mg equals 3.6% Nicotine yet the report finds only 1.8% Nicotine so its only 18mg.
Any reason why its only half the labeled strength or am i doing the Math wrong ?
Notice the part I put in red. 36mg/ml is a w/v (or weight per volume) measurement and is indeed 3.6% if expressed as w/v. I don't know how the calculation works for % w/w, all I can do is point out that one little piece of info on the units used in that report  |
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« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2012, 11:11:45 PM » |
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I usually don't appreciate made in China stuff. It is a friend from France who introduced me to E-cig. She told me she was turning towards Joyetech products because they were the best (a chinese branch from what I understood), and that the liquids she bought in France were made in China, but were the best so far.
It took me ages to find TW and start using Ecigs myself, just because I wanted to be sure about the quality of products I would use. Believe me, from all teh research I made before ordering my first Titan, TW was from far off the best one!
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« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2012, 02:31:01 AM » |
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Cheers StevieD. i would have never found that post. After reading the linked post and a few others too it would seem the lab reports on the test samples done by so called "Professionals" aren't worth the paper their written on.kind of silly to leave flawed tests results on the TW website imo. But something still don't read right to me about these test results. The tests carried out by "LPD Lab Services Limited" are shown as unreliable,but the test on the link i provided http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/about-the-fluid/lab-reports.html was carried out by "Scientific Analysis Laboratories Limited" and it also shows a low Nicotine % of 1.8 on 36mg liquid. i know TW no longer sells/is winding down selling Decadent Vapours branded products(still the best imo) and other juices are now made by other producers but did the samples ever get retested by another lab(that can be trusted) and the report posted ? Thx for pointing that out Killjoy,i have no idea either,but seems funny it's 50% of the stated Nicotine level I don't wish to start a full scale inquiry ,just something i noticed and thought i'd ask why Off topic Also any eta and more importantly pricing for 100,250 & 500 ml of Titanium Ice TW is meant to be selling ? thx |
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« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2012, 06:21:45 AM » |
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Not sure if it was tested correctly by the lab or what came of it all.
Nick stands behind his product, same as Jason ..... if the 54mg was truly half strength many would have noticed and there would have been hundreds posting on it complaining.
Threads are easily forgotten about and buried in all the daily new threads that are started... it's not unusual.
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