CE3 Smokeymiser - Initial Thoughts

[Fad]

Just put one of these onto an SD and filled with my normal liquid mix.

1. I am going to lose the little black plugs - thankfully there is a spare included in the 5 pack...a little fiddly to insert, but may get used to it after a few uses.
2. I find that this CE3 is susceptible to condensation, maybe even more than the other clearomisers, it`s causing a bit of bubbling & whistling already after just a couple of minutes. Could be my vaping of course.
3. Finding the draw a little "slow" compared to a CE2, almost as though it can`t quite keep up.  It`s a fresh SD battery but it`s almost as though I`m using a half depleted one.

Vapour production seems to be just fine and no signs of cracks etc, the plastic tubing is more opaque and obviously less brittle than the stuff they used on the other clearomisers.

Will give it a proper seeing to throughout the day and compare against the CE2 simultaneously to see if it breaks in any more.

[WHITEE1987]

Cheers Fad good to know.

Looking at getting a pack of these to trial myself.

[caz]

Just tried out my purple smokymiser and gotta say i'm impressed  ,   hated the other clearomisers,  tried them a few times and just could not get on with them,  always tasted burnt,  no throat hit whatsoever.   These new smokymisers seem to be very good,  good throat hit,  no burnt taste and plenty of vapour.  The tiny black plug is a pain and i lost one already 

Wow i've actually stopped using my titan tank and gone back to my tornado passthough 

[Astrecks]

  no lights in chat now

[caz]

no lights in chat now

i can still use my titan batteries with the smokymiser as well jeff     but will you get to see more vapour from me  that is the big question,  you could be amazed 

[Phil A.]

I'm in two minds about these - I was hoping they'd be like the clearos but with a more robust casing (I guess that's what the CE2 ultimates are?):
I love the warm vapour you get out of a CE2 clearo and with a minor adjustment to the inner seal and a drip tip, I think they are pretty much the best vapour / flavour producers available.

I'm not mad keen on the bottom feed on these, nor the little bung which I think will be incredibly annoying - why couldn't they just mould it as part of the mouthpiece?

Having said that, I may throw a box into the cart next time I'm stocking up and see how they go

[Astrecks]

i can still use my titan batteries with the smokymiser as well jeff     but will you get to see more vapour from me  that is the big question,  you could be amazed 

So we'll see more vapour and less of you then?...my gosh, this is getting worse  

[Fad]

Anyone...are you not seeing a lot of condensation/excess fluid buildup in the mouthpiece - more than the CE2 ?

I`m just wondering if it`s me - although I know well enough not to flood these things, it does seem to me to be a bit on the "wet" side and slow on the uptake and vapourising of the fluid..

[caz]

Anyone...are you not seeing a lot of condensation/excess fluid buildup in the mouthpiece - more than the CE2 ?

I`m just wondering if it`s me - although I know well enough not to flood these things, it does seem to me to be a bit on the "wet" side and slow on the uptake and vapourising of the fluid..

same here fad,  cant speak for the CE2 as i never bothered with them after the initial few tries,  but just checked the mouthpiece after reading your post and there is definately a build up of fluid there. 

[Fad]

It doesn`t seem to do it as much if you use it upside down. 

[Horsemen]

Good information Fad

[Fad]

Hopefully as more people start testing these we`ll get some more feedback and maybe some tips & tricks.

Some bright spark really needs to design a better way of refilling these though, I never thought I`d say it, but the CE2s are easier to refill......some kind of one way valve with no removeable parts.

A silicone sphincter...for want of a better description.


After 4 hours and 3 refills, I`m tempted to say the CE2 performs better than the 3 in terms of general usage - from what I`ve seen up to now....but it`s a case of watch this space I suppose.

[Carol_Scot]

Fad you says After 4 hours and 3 refills,
Your tempted to say the CE2 performs better than the 3
You are lucky Fad,  i got a box this morning and i filled my 1st one up
and i vaped like a dream,  i says to my self this is the Dogs you know what
lots of vape just fab.
i was out of juice , and i done a refill , and i was putting the juice in one end and
it was coming out the hole on the bottom of the 510 fitting ? it stopped when i had only about 1/4 of the tube left
i vape it other 10 mins and when to fill it up again,  and i just got the same
in the top and out the bottom ?
not sure if it just this one ? i hope so ,  cause i just made a order for other 3 box's
cause this morning it was vaping like a dream
as for filling the CE3 not much different from the CE2
just that extra black tip,   and i was ok with that, i think ok and easy to fill
if the juice i put in would stay in,  and not run out the bottom ?  any one else had this
i fill up other one soon ?
Carol

[tommk3cab]

Fad you says After 4 hours and 3 refills,
Your tempted to say the CE2 performs better than the 3
You are lucky Fad,  i got a box this morning and i filled my 1st one up
and i vaped like a dream,  i says to my self this is the Dogs you know what
lots of vape just fab.
i was out of juice , and i done a refill , and i was putting the juice in one end and
it was coming out the hole on the bottom of the 510 fitting ? it stopped when i had only about 1/4 of the tube left
i vape it other 10 mins and when to fill it up again,  and i just got the same
in the top and out the bottom ?
not sure if it just this one ? i hope so ,  cause i just made a order for other 3 box's
cause this morning it was vaping like a dream
as for filling the CE3 not much different from the CE2
just that extra black tip,   and i was ok with that, i think ok and easy to fill
if the juice i put in would stay in,  and not run out the bottom ?  any one else had this
i fill up other one soon ?
Carol

You are not the first person I have heard with this problem, I would post a link but obviously can't. I think the problem can be (but shouldn't need to be) identified and corrected if you take it to bits. Not suggesting that you do but I think the problem becomes obvious when you do. Something to do with one of the seals around the tube. I am only passing on information, I have never used them myself.

[Carol_Scot]

tommk3cab if you know were the info is could you PM me with it
cause one fill is not good enough lol
i would like to know how to fix them as i have other 3 boxes coming
Carol

[tommk3cab]

tommk3cab if you know were the info is could you PM me with it
cause one fill is not good enough lol
i would like to know how to fix them as i have other 3 boxes coming
Carol

PMed

[Killjoy]

nor the little bung which I think will be incredibly annoying - why couldn't they just mould it as part of the mouthpiece?

I think the manufacturer learned that lesson from the first edition of the giantomizers.  They had a little bung as part of the mouthpiece unit and it could be a royal pain to re-insert said mouthpiece properly sometimes.  When they revised those, they used a gasket design more like the clearos, instead.  Far less fiddly

I'm looking forward to trying these out.  No ideas if I'll run into issues with the little bung or not, but we'll see soon enough

[vapenator]

Ive received mine this morning and have just filled the first one. I did find filling a little more involved but its no biggie. My first impressions are pour flavour more than anything but ive only taken a few hits so will report back when its had chance to settle in a bit. there are signs of some stress in the tubing where it connects to the atomiser part (like little webs of discolouration where the blue plastic has stretched to reveal white) but its not leaking. Capacity is 1.5ml. More later

[david]

Well, i got my Smokeymizers on wednesday, and am quite unhappy with them so far, one has leaked liquid all over the battery and the amount of liquid i have now "lost" is approx 3ml, yes the vapor is good and the taste is good, but, i am also getting liquid coming up the tube into my mouth, very off putting.

For myself, i wont buy these again, i wish i hadnt last week, liquid in the mouth and wasting liquid is not a good thing.

3 still sealed and they will stay sealed, no, not happy with them

[WHITEE1987]

Got mine yesterday afternoon.

Well they are very temperamental on my "well known vv mod." they need to be very loosely screwed on to operate. Took one out to the pub last night on a mega tornado battery and no complaints.

Vapour production is good, flavour is good just like a clearo really. Nice to have a carefree version of a clearo.not been able to run it dry yet but I will keep trying.

Have had an experience of the juice running out the bottom. I think this is if you push the liquid in at pressure. If you fill gently this doesn't seem to happen.

So far I'm relatively happy id order more.

[lordy]

Just received my smokeys. With regards to juice running out the bottom, I think that like the dual coils it's a result of over filling - 1ml juice seems to be ideal. Flavour is FAR BETTER than the clearo's I received previously; no wicking issues and none of the plastic taste that came with them either (am vaping my own blend pina colada at the moment and it tastes gorgeous). Vapour production isn't QUITE as good as a standard mega atty but regardless, it's still an enjoyable vape.Much prefer the nylon drip tip to the supplied bungs.

Agree that there's a condensation issue, but simply removing the drip tip (far easier to remove than bungs) and pushing the end of a tissue in there negates the likelihood of a mouth full of juice

Regarding air locks, with the blunt metal syringe tips, so long as you don't push them right up to the plastic fitting there's still plenty of space for air to flow. So long as you inject juice slowly I can't see how there could be too much of a problem!?

Anyway, early days, but so far so good. A vast improvement over the CE2

[Discodes]

Keep em horizontal when filling until AFTER you replace the bung = NO LEAKING! 

[Phil A.]

I've just ordered some of these - I was a bit doubtful because of the messing around with the little bung but I'm always keen to try new cartomisers so I thought I'd buy a pack and try them for myself. I'll report my findings once I've had chance to play with them.

[vapordragon]

Fad you says After 4 hours and 3 refills,
Your tempted to say the CE2 performs better than the 3
You are lucky Fad,  i got a box this morning and i filled my 1st one up
and i vaped like a dream,  i says to my self this is the Dogs you know what
lots of vape just fab.
i was out of juice , and i done a refill , and i was putting the juice in one end and
it was coming out the hole on the bottom of the 510 fitting ? it stopped when i had only about 1/4 of the tube left
i vape it other 10 mins and when to fill it up again,  and i just got the same
in the top and out the bottom ?
not sure if it just this one ? i hope so ,  cause i just made a order for other 3 box's
cause this morning it was vaping like a dream
as for filling the CE3 not much different from the CE2
just that extra black tip,   and i was ok with that, i think ok and easy to fill
if the juice i put in would stay in,  and not run out the bottom ?  any one else had this
i fill up other one soon ?
Carol

The problem with CE2 is trying to fill them too fast. Basically what happens is you use the needle to fill it from one side while the air inside gets pushed up and out of the other hole. If you push too hard it creates enough pressure to force fluid through the wicks rapidly causing the leaking. I fill them slowly and I watch the fluid level opposite the side I am filling to see how fast it rises. As long as it raises slow I don't see any leaks at the thread end. Just my experiences anyway. Hope this helps.

[Carol_Scot]

The 1st one no matter what i do it leaks, i use CE2 all the time , so i know what they are like to fill
what i would also says about them,
don't fill them any more then 1ml
if you do that's when you get trouble with them

Carol

[tommk3cab]

Just received my smokeys

A cheltenham vaper nice, closest to me I have seen yet Ill shout hello and you will almost be able to hear me

[lordy]

Hi TomK3cab... another local vaper eh? I haven't seen many around these parts! I know a few people who've tried it and gone back to the analogues and as a result I can only count my vaping friends on one hand!

[tommk3cab]

Hi TomK3cab... another local vaper eh? I haven't seen many around these parts! I know a few people who've tried it and gone back to the analogues and as a result I can only count my vaping friends on one hand!

yes, I have only met one other in passing.. I have seen a few with cigalikes and 510's I think but only confirmed 1

[Phil A.]

My first impressions of these new cartos are pretty favourable - nice vapour and great flavour. They also seem to wick really well and I've had no burnt taste or leaking so far (it's early days yet though!).
One thing I definitely don't like though is the stupid little rubber bung - it makes filling them far harder than it should be and I'm sure there must be a better way to do it!

Overall though I like them and I'll probably get some more in as part of my regular kit: I still prefer the CE2s though

[lordy]

Really surprised by the number of people who prefer the CE2's... think I must've got a bad batch or something, but I just got awful plastic taste from them and major wicking issues. This was on my first pack, and therefore my only pack. The CE3 has given me a far superior experience. Completely agree that the bung is fiddly but a pair of decent tweesers (rubber tipped ones are perfect - my girlfriend's going to have to buy a new pair!) soon make the task simpler.

With regards to the fluid leaking out of the battery end, Discode's advice above is completely sound... fill it horizontally and you get absolutely no leaking, until you lift vertically to replace the bung. This is where being quick really helps (or a finger over the base if you're dexterous enough), and where decent tweesers really speed that process along.

Every flavour I've put in there so far (Pina Colada, Lime Zinger and Absinthe) tastes 'full' and authentic. So far 6 refills on one cart and no degrading in performance. The fact that the battery end leaks until the bung is replaced when in a vertical position really helps with one important issue - running several mls of of hot water through it before changing flavours means that the previous liquid never contaminates the new. Blowing VERY gently through the mouth piece speeds the process up, but it doesn't take long at all for a cart full of hot water to drain naturally.

The only problem is the condensation/juice coming up into the mouth piece. Using the nylon drip tip as opposed to the rubber fitting ensures you'll rectify this problem with a tissue long before you end up with a mouth full of eJuice.

I've yet to stumble upon any atomiser or cartomiser that doesn't have cumbersome maintenance/cleaning as an aspect of general use, but given the low cost and great performance I think these new smokeys are really tough to beat.