Red Label - American Red Tobacco

[MizzSvensson]

Hi there

I'm in desperate need of advice.   

I'm currently using the Blended Tobacco flavour, and I'm lokking on this website, calculating prices and such, and I can see, that if I buy the American Red Tobacco in 250 ml bottles, I can save A LOT! The Blended Tobacco only comes in 30 ml bottles at 10 bottles a pack, and thats pricy...

So what I want to know, is, if the American Red Tobacco has any simularities to Blended Tobacco?? Would I get more taste, less taste or?? I'm totally lost...

Heeeelp... 

[Lettie22]

I know nothing about the tobacco flavors, but I would caution you from buying a 250ml bottle of e-liquid without having first tried it.   Even if someone comes along and tells you it's great -- it may not be great for you.   I know you probably pay more for shipping being in Demark, but I still wouldn't buy that big of a bottle without trying it first.

Also, very important ~~ many of us that started out with a tobacco flavor, soon went on to flavors.   There are some here that will retch if they vape with tobacco now.

[MizzSvensson]

I know nothing about the tobacco flavors, but I would caution you from buying a 250ml bottle of e-liquid without having first tried it.   Even if someone comes along and tells you it's great -- it may not be great for you.   I know you probably pay more for shipping being in Demark, but I still wouldn't buy that big of a bottle without trying it first.

Also, very important ~~ many of us that started out with a tobacco flavor, soon went on to flavors.   There are some here that will retch if they vape with tobacco now.

Hi Lettie22

Yeah you're right, but I'm paying £10 in shipping no matter how much I buy, so it's not the shipping I'm worried about. It's the price of the small bottles... 
A £ is almost 9 DKK. Normally I wouldn't think much of that small an amount, but when you're paying £90 for 5 bottles containing 30 ml...  That's a lot of money... Also when I have to get chargers, batteries and such, so that I do not miss them, if one breaks down...

I know I'm saving money by vaping... But the startup is a b*tch LOL

[caz]

Would be a lot cheaper for you to mix your own,  once the new platinium/titanium ice nicotine base comes in stock i would get a bottle of that and a bunch of the tobacco concentrates. 

Use the daily discount codes and that will be cheaper again 

[caz]

or buy the 250ml bottle Red Label  36mg unflavoured liquid  and some red label blended tobacco flavour concentrates and make your favourite flavour that way.  


500ml bottles are actually on offer at the moment -  http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/totally-wicked-eliquid/totally-wicked-e-liquid/500ml-totally-wicked-electric-cigarette-2-product.html   get the unflavoured at 36mg will make a lot of juice 

[MizzSvensson]

or buy the 250ml bottle Red Label  36mg unflavoured liquid  and some red label blended tobacco flavour concentrates and make your favourite flavour that way.  


500ml bottles are actually on offer at the moment -  http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/totally-wicked-eliquid/totally-wicked-e-liquid/500ml-totally-wicked-electric-cigarette-2-product.html   get the unflavoured at 36mg will make a lot of juice 

But I'm all new at that... I don't have the slightest clue on how to mix...

Could you give advice??? 

[caz]

[caz]

sighhhh seems the forum is still having technical problems.   

[MizzSvensson]

That gotta suck when you have just written a bunch of things... 

[caz]

yup just did a long explanation post with links,  wish i had copied it first  before i posted it   grrrrrrrr.   will do it again now 

[MizzSvensson]

yup just did a long explanation post with links,  wish i had copied it first  before i posted it   grrrrrrrr.   will do it again now 

Lol

Got some great advice Got it covered.

But thanks for spending the time and efford

You're sweet

[caz]

You'll need the following.


1   Red Label unflavoured 36 mg  nicotine base -  http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/totally-wicked-eliquid/totally-wicked-e-liquid/500ml-totally-wicked-electric-cigarette-2-product.html

2   Flavour Concentrates -  http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/electronic-cigarette-flavourings/10ml-red-label-tobacco-concentrate-2-product.html

3   A bottle of PG or VG  (this dilutes the nicotine down to whatever strength you are vaping)   PG gives throat hit but less vapour -  VG gives vapour but less throat hit,   so depending which you prefer  you can decide which one to buy,   most buy both to add to mixing.

http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/mixing-accessories/diluents/100ml-propylene-glycol-pharmacopoeia-product.html
http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/mixing-accessories/diluents/100ml-vegetable-glycerine-product.html

4  Empty Dropper bottles


Thats all you need to start mixing.


This calculator will do the maths for you and tell you how much to add of nicotine,  flavour concentrate and the dilutant -  http://www.todmuller.com/ejuice/ejuice.php

If you are already vaping at 36mg strength you wont need the PG or VG,  would just need to add the flavour concentrate to the nicotine. 


Reading instructions about  mixing does make it seem complicated,  but really it isnt,  like making a cup of tea,  you just need to add ingrediants  to taste,   

Always do small samples to start off with,  like a 1ml mix  until you get used to it and find the taste you like. 
On the calculator start with a flavour percentage of 10%,  you can always add more concentrate if its not strong enough.

Any questions just ask away  we are here to help,    Mixing is really a lot cheaper than buying pre-mixed.   


edit   posting it now as i've done it  lol 

[Kenneth131]

What are you using just now anyway? an ego C or tornado?
The reason I ask is you mentioned about buying batteries and chargers and all that jazz

How about you look at the USB passthrough batteries. Probably cost as much as a charger and battery.

You get One battery, personally i recommend the 1000mah one £19.99 but it is a fair bit longer than the standard

Either way you get a new battery which you can charge as normal OR you can charge it through a usb port on your pc or usb wall charger if you have one, hell even in your car if you have a usb charger that plugs in your cig lighter socket.

Also if it runs flat which the 1000mah will last all day even under heavy use, you just have to plug it in with the supplied usb cable and continue using it WHILE it charges,


No more need for anything else. one battery and your set. Then if this ever dies you still have your original ones as backups. 

Best things ever

[MizzSvensson]

Hi Kenneth131.

First of, I bought the starter kid (Tornado T) and there's 2 batteries,, a charger and all that with it.
But my mother in law, who introduced me to vaping, has tried almost everything from TW and she has found that the chargers will break down with use (as almost everything does) and so it's a good idea to have spares. That's what I'm doing now: Buying spare parts, so that I never have to go back to normal cigs, if a batterie dies on me

I don't like the long batteries. Mostly because they are that long. And I'm not a heavy user. My normal batteries often lasts more than a day, and I think I have it in my mouth all the time, but apparently not. LOL

The reason why I have to have all those supplies, is that I live here in DK and it takes about a week before the packages reaches me...
My mother in law has LOADS of fluids at her house, so if I ever needed a 30 ml bottle, and I can't wait for TW to get it to me, I can buy one from her. But I want to be able to handle this vaping on my own, not having to rely on other people to have the stuff I need at home

I don't like those passthrough's...

But know I figured out a way to make the fluids a little cheaper mixing them myself

But thanks for the advice. Maybe I will shift to the longer batteries some day, but for the time being, I'm satisfied with the ones I have

Happy vaping

[skissiks]

American Red used to be an American Red Tobacco flavor but a certain cig company didn't like that so the name was changed. There are actually three versions of the American Red, the Red Label, Patriot Range and the TW Titan.  IMHO, I think the Red Label has the best flavor which was probably the 250ml you were looking at.  That is a lot for something you haven't tried. Mixing, I mix with both VG and PG you would have to experiment I use 15% to 20% VG. In my area I have a compounding pharmacy and can buy a one pint bottle of PG (around 470ml) for a little over $13 US. That makes a lot of eliquid.
Not everyone has the patience to mix their own liquid but you might find it kind of fun.  Or not  

[Lettie22]

Hey skissiks, did you know that Tractor Supply Company sells 1 gallon for $21 ~~ that 3,725 ml and that's a whole lot of PG .   Not sure if you have one of those stores in your area, but thought I'd let you know.   It was way too much for me to buy as I'm just starting out.    Got a pint from my local mom-and-pop pharmacy and paid a little over 1/2 that amount.

[skissiks]

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Hey skissiks, did you know that Tractor Supply Company sells 1 gallon for $21 ~~ that 3,725 ml and that's a whole lot of PG .   Not sure if you have one of those stores in your area, but thought I'd let you know.   It was way too much for me to buy as I'm just starting out.    Got a pint from my local mom-and-pop pharmacy and paid a little over 1/2 that amount.

Thanks, there is one close to me but a gallon is a bit much though.