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« on: July 31, 2012, 08:54:54 PM » |
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Hi. I am in a quiet frustrating situation. I am enjoying vaping almost one month now and I am doing it with a titan tank 510. After one week I discovered that it was not the right thing for me (found myself trying sparing the battery till I was not sure that the one in the charger was finally marked as GREEN!). For a while I decided to wait for the odyssey , then I decided to find myself an SD buying batteries somewhere else but preparing myself with adapter, DCT, clearomizers and a passthrough battery for my Titan. Batteries are coming from too far.. so I decided to buy a tornado passthrough battery, ego-c atomizers, cone, tanks so that I could use them with my SD that waits for batteries and the new passthrough that will come in a couple of days with them. The problem is that during all this time of delirium I also collected an amount of flavours, platinum, titanium, diluents all PG and VG and started to taste some mix.. some of them are steeped one week in a drawer and will stay there another one. So: I am starting to decide what flavour I like and what I do not, which one gives the good throat hit and which one not.. right amount of VG.. nicotine levels , steeping methods. Do you think that all those evaluation will need to be done again once in a couple of days I will finally try something that is not a titan 510 ? Flavours, vapor, throat hit are massively affected by the device? SD vs Titan or Ego-c VS Titan? I know I will see by myself soon... but I am melting my brain waiting and preparing bottles. Steeping syndrome?  Thanks 
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2012, 09:14:25 PM » |
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I personally think that all devices have an effect on throat hit, flavour and vapour. But I don't steep my mixes, to be honest I dont think you need to. If you find something that you like straight the way, theres not an awful lot of difference after steeping. In fact some of my mixes that I have just gone back after a few months, I could swear that the flavour is less, than when first made? I know someone will come on now and say I'm wrong  lol But for me, I mix as I need. When I run out, I mix another bottle. Thats saves all the hassle of the bottling, labelling (not that labelling is bad) storing, steeping and keeping long detailed pages of what everything is, and dates to go with it all. Do you think that you may be over complicating things a little? if not then just try your mixes when you get your new gear, and see how it goes
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2012, 09:29:32 PM » |
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It's a fairly subjective subject. Mixes. devices etc... I tend to find that whatever you mix has pretty much a similar taste, regardless of device. However the intensity changes somewhat, depending on type of atomiser, and again is something akin to fine tuning hit etc., rather than a massive difference. Again, I'm sticking neck out here re -DCT, as to me is a less messy vape, once set up properly. Namely, to me, more consistent than ego-C tank, in terms of lack of wet dripping into mouth, somehow drier more flavourful, stronger hit, yet I believe Astrecks (hope you don't mind mentioning your name?) who has been vaping approx. 3 yrs, is Administrator and Elite Member, would go for the ego-C type atty...? In any case you're going to enjoy experimentation, and the types of kit you bought so far, you aren't going to be disappointed with equipment. So, it's all down to you and your mixing.... ....like a toddler learning to walk, you'll fall down with it, stand up and start again..... Have Fun 
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2012, 09:54:30 PM » |
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I'd say the device surely can have an impact on the taste of a specific juice BUT you won't have to start all over again. The flavors will only change a little bit depending on what atomizer and battery used (voltage makes the biggest difference to taste along side coil resistance. Most things are improved on rather than going backwards or starting over. You'll be able to keep up as the next step will be taken with us and the manufacturer.  good luck
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 09:57:32 PM » |
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I'd say the device surely can have an impact on the taste of a specific juice BUT you won't have to start all over again. The flavors will only change a little bit depending on what atomizer and battery used (voltage makes the biggest difference to taste along side coil resistance. Most things are improved on rather than going backwards or starting over. You'll be able to keep up as the next step will be taken with us and the manufacturer.  good luck Definitely better put than the way I were trying to say it... The device does have an impact, but it won't be so different, may need adjustment.. Totally agree...... 
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 10:45:30 PM » |
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I do not want to be misunderstood. I like steeping.  I consider steeping the most fascinating aspect about vaping after vaping itself. I really hope ceekay27 is totally wrong, I surely don't know but I would like to consider eliquid like a good wine, something to create, the perfect recipe, the secret touch.  Is just that not obtaining immediately the result I was expecting I am maybe trying to find an excuse in the device I am using to test my results, and looking for opinions agreeing or disagreeing with it. I would like to go on mixing and enjoying the search for the perfect vape, and I am pretty sure that the mix that I find with a great round flavour but lacks of throat hit can find another dimension when vaped with an ego-c or a SD instead my Titan. Sure I will have to learn to consider all the aspects.. surely I must do it before buying another device 
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 10:59:53 PM » |
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lol, maybe I am wrong, who knows? I just dont steep, but that me. some flavours will work with steeping, some will disappoint. But for me, I dont have the time or the patience for that 
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 11:19:12 PM » |
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You know what, Hypnofolk?? you carry on doing exactly what you are doing, and keep on posting your efforts....  I just love to read your posts..lol and if it is any help, I too like to steep my juices for the fuller flavour, and have lots of bottles made up in the cupboard, just waiting.......lol
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 11:26:43 PM » |
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I'm still undecided but the hot water and viscosity thing for mixing is a tip I'll be using in the future, I really do think steeping is a personal taste thing, I'd try knocking a batch of something up and leaving it a fortnight then doing a taste test against a new batch of the same stuff, but it's not likely to survive that long unvaped lol
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2012, 11:37:46 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2012, 11:40:25 PM » |
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I'm a mix-and-go person too, not convinced on the merits of steeping either, the PG, VG and flavours are all pretty inert ingredients, with wine there is fermentation going on. I don't know whether is is experience, good luck or I'm easily pleased, but I have found the kit and the flavours that keep me happy. I think I have gained enough experience to work out what if anything is going wrong with any particular atomizer/cartomizer. There are cartomizers I won't entertain, because a). they don't taste right b). there is too big of a fiddle and fudge factor to get them to work the way I want. For me the eGo-C fitted to the SD or Odyssey hits the spot. The eGo-c vapes cleanly, flavour changes vape through it pretty quickly, they are cheap enough replace more often, the tank cartridge is quick and easy to fill. Personally I don't need a device the size of a small power-station with a fuel tanker fitted to it, it's no hardship to carry a couple of spare charged batteries and a 10ml bottle of eliquid. Vaping life is good 
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 11:44:13 PM » |
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I'm a mix-and-go person too, not convinced on the merits of steeping either, the PG, VG and flavours are all pretty inert ingredients, with wine there is fermentation going on. I don't know whether is is experience, good luck or I'm easily pleased, but I have found the kit and the flavours that keep me happy. I think I have gained enough experience to work out what if anything is going wrong with any particular atomizer/cartomizer. There are cartomizers I won't entertain, because a). they don't taste right b). there is too big of a fiddle and fudge factor to get them to work the way I want. For me the eGo-C fitted to the SD or Odyssey hits the spot. The eGo-c vapes cleanly, flavour changes vape through it pretty quickly, they are cheap enough replace more often, the tank cartridge is quick and easy to fill. Personally I don't need a device the size of a small power-station with a fuel tanker fitted to it, it's no hardship to carry a couple of spare charged batteries and a 10ml bottle of eliquid. Vaping life is good  Glad you came on this thread, verifies what I mentioned about ego-C, quoting your good self. I hope you didn't mind too much. I were just trying to balance my thoughts against others' prefernces. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2012, 12:04:33 AM » |
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Glad you came on this thread, verifies what I mentioned about ego-C, quoting your good self. I hope you didn't mind too much. I were just trying to balance my thoughts against others' prefernces.  Not at all Billy! It's a roller coaster ride on which I have been from the early times when vaping was much simpler yet still frustrating, the number of ways one could fill a simple polyester wool cartridge was phenomenal! And now we have such a big variety of systems it is hopelessly confusing for new vapers. The best ecig that was around then was the Titan 510, or the mega expensive (at the time) an SD mkI very little choice in eliquids and you had to fork out £20 for a bottle of eliquid you may well not have liked the flavour of when it arrived, but it did help in the sense that there were few variables and you really got to learn how to use the kit you had. It's a bit like TV, years ago I watched more TV on the the 4 channels that were available and appreciated them, than I do now with over 200 channels..the choice is just too big!
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2012, 12:14:30 AM » |
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To be quite honest I don't wait to use my mixes. I speed mix with the hot water trick and fill a tank up. Usually I leave the bottle out overnight shaking before every use. Some bottles I didn't like very much set aside and after a week or so. Then try again. I do try to steep but I can't wait.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2012, 07:46:49 AM » |
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Thanks  At least it seems than SD and eGo-C are a good choice and an affordable way for vaping. About my mixing mania at the moment I am curious about oxidation. I find that whatever I do the French Pipe I mix is different from the premixed, starting from the colour. I also though that when I buy a premixed eliquid it is delivered after a couple of weeks sitting in some warehouse and so in some way steeped? I will find the key 
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2012, 04:00:24 PM » |
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What is steeping? Sorry if that's a dumb Q but I'm a noob still learning
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2012, 04:07:11 PM » |
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Its basically leaving your home made eliquid to mature for a while. Some people place the bottle in hot water, others sit the bottle in the sun, or a warm room. You can leave it to steep for as long as like before trying it to see if it has improved the TH and flavour.
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« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2012, 05:04:49 PM » |
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Its basically leaving your home made eliquid to mature for a while. Some people place the bottle in hot water, others sit the bottle in the sun, or a warm room. You can leave it to steep for as long as like before trying it to see if it has improved the TH and flavour.
Nice one I would have just vaped it straight away. Not got my kit yet so all info is appreciated.
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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2012, 05:16:55 PM » |
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What is steeping? Sorry if that's a dumb Q but I'm a noob still learning
nice one, was wondering for ages what it was but didnt have the courage to ask
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