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« on: October 29, 2009, 06:52:40 AM » |
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Just wanted some input from you guys. Got my first 5 pack of manual batteries. I'm wondering as how I may best utilize my five batteries. Do you guys take a couple on rotation, and when they die then use the next two? Or do you rotate all five? I ve read that lithium batteries lose charge and capacity over time when unusd. How shnificant this might be, I am unsure of.
Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2009, 08:12:34 AM » |
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The most common approach is to use them one at a time, and cycle through, yes. Though depending on how much you vape, I would only be personally inclined to charge, once you are down to your last two spare batteries, I'm loathe to storing anything fully charged unless I know I'm going to use it. Most recommended battery storage policies, or instructions on packs of them, state never to store fully charged, but then thats just me. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2009, 08:28:36 AM » |
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Lithium ion batteries should always be stored either fully or partially charged and you should charge them up again once every couple of months if you don't use them. The reason for this is that although they self discharge slower than other rechargeables they do self discharge and will eventually self discharge to the point they can't be charged again. That's why they are always shipped with a charge and you need to maintain that.
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ahmadrulz
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2009, 10:31:06 AM » |
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Okay so I received my five pack a couple of days back. I've broken into one. One of the starter kit batteries are still vaping nicely.
So you guys suggest I fully charge the remaining four before I store them in a cool dry dark place?
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2009, 10:39:35 AM » |
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I only roatate three batteries at one time, the rest are saved for when any of my batteries stop working. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2009, 02:02:42 PM » |
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i rotate all my mega pack of batt's daily..i think everybody's different though 
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2009, 02:08:09 PM » |
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i rotate all my mega pack of batt's daily..i think everybody's different though  I always rotated all 11 of my Titan batteries when the Titan was my main device  ... I don't think it makes any difference lol... just had more batteries charged up if I was away from electricity for a while 
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2009, 02:18:15 PM » |
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whats your main device that you use now spiraller? 
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2009, 08:05:51 PM » |
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Okay so I received my five pack a couple of days back. I've broken into one. One of the starter kit batteries are still vaping nicely.
So you guys suggest I fully charge the remaining four before I store them in a cool dry dark place?
No, I'd say the best thing to do would be to charge the batteries to about 40% (this gives you plenty of margin for self discharge), then store the batteries in the fridge. The lower temperature will prevent the batteries from aging as quickly, and charging to 40% will do the same. After a year of cold storage, you would want to re-charge them, because by then the charge will have dropped to 10-15%. Charged to 40% and stored at 4 deg C they should only loose 10% or less capacity in a year. If stored fully charged, and at room temperature would loose 30-40% capacity in one year (depending on room temperature).
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2009, 11:26:50 AM » |
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Ah. That's sounds good. I would be using the rest within the year I'd say. Six months and I should be into the last two. Fourth percent charge. How muchcharge do they carry from the factory? I could drain then and then charge them for 20 minutes before popping then into the fridge yeah?
Cheers!
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2009, 07:21:37 PM » |
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Ah. That's sounds good. I would be using the rest within the year I'd say. Six months and I should be into the last two. Fourth percent charge. How muchcharge do they carry from the factory? I could drain then and then charge them for 20 minutes before popping then into the fridge yeah?
Cheers!
I'm not sure how much charge from the factory. The ones I have bought have been 50% or more charged. You could discharge the battery, then charge for 20-25 min, that should be close enough to 40%. I would wrap the batteries in plastic bags, or ziplock bags, so when removed to warm up, it keeps condensation from forming. After the battery has warmed up it can be unwrapped and charged as normal.
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2009, 07:52:43 PM » |
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Ah. That's sounds good. I would be using the rest within the year I'd say. Six months and I should be into the last two. Fourth percent charge. How muchcharge do they carry from the factory? I could drain then and then charge them for 20 minutes before popping then into the fridge yeah?
Cheers!
I'm not sure how much charge from the factory. The ones I have bought have been 50% or more charged. You could discharge the battery, then charge for 20-25 min, that should be close enough to 40%. I would wrap the batteries in plastic bags, or ziplock bags, so when removed to warm up, it keeps condensation from forming. After the battery has warmed up it can be unwrapped and charged as normal. I was under the impression Lithium batts worked best cold/cool? o.x
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2009, 08:01:23 PM » |
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I think by warmed up Richard means once you get them back to roo temperature after getting them out of the fridge, then you take em out of the plastic zip lock bags.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2009, 08:26:54 PM » |
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I think by warmed up Richard means once you get them back to roo temperature after getting them out of the fridge, then you take em out of the plastic zip lock bags.
Yes that is what I mean  Sorry if that wasn't clear. Removing a battery from the fridge and leaving it open to the air could allow condensation to form. Keeping it in the bag, or wrapped in plastic until it gets back to room temp, would prevent that happening. It would be a shame to have your carefully preserved battery short out due to water, just before you wanted to use it.
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