Tornado Ego-C, Teamwork to figure out some problems

[Knoton]

Hello everyone,

As a lot of you know I really like the ego-c atty and find it very sad that some get into problems with them.
It is strange that some of us find it to work excellent and others have nothing but problems with them.
Right now there are several different threads about problems.
We could try to collect all info here on this thread.
I have this idea we put down  a list of how we use them.
And if we are having a problem or not.
If there is a problem we tell what type of problems we have.
When if we put our heads together we might see some trends and a way to solve the problems.
Or if not just to determine that there is some huge inconsistency problems with them.

I hope all of you will work with me on this to get this solved.

The information we would need is:

If you have no problem write that...
Type of problem with the atty (Leaking, dry taste, coil clogging fast, shortlived..)
Amount of juice per day
What juices being used with it.
What type of tank being used
What tank cap being used (hard/soft)
Number of atties used and maybe if from different strips of 5
Average lifetime of each atty
How you clean it (blow out, dry burning)
Something more useful someone else could think of?

[Knoton]

I have no problems at all just love it.

I vape about 2ml per day in same c atty
95% of the time I vape Absinthe, the rest is DV Roasted Chestnut and Aromatic
I use mostly the tanks that came with it, but I have used the old type as well.
I use mostly the soft caps
I have used 5 atties from 3 different strips
I have used a atty head for about 10 weeks
I blow out maybe 3 times per day to clean it and about once a week I do the dryburning method to clean it.

I have been using it since I got it for a testreview end of November.
Since I got it I only use the C nothing else.
I dont alter kit during the day, only sometimes if I want to vape something else but Absinthe.
Cant think of anything else that could help...

[vp_smoker]

Really good idea knoton.

Not really had any major dramas with the eGo as of yet.

First atty lasted just over 2 weeks(might seem short to some but I go through between 5 - 7ml a day so had a lot of juice through it) even then it was me who destroyed it, just had to take it apart to see what it was like. All my atty heads are from the original strip that came with my starter kit.

I use old style carts and hard caps till they get worn then change over to soft caps, have found the soft caps last longer and don't distort, only down side is you loose about .1ml in the cart.

I use a multitude of flavours in my C mainly DV or RL: Butter Rum,   Buttered Popcorn, Chocolate, Cherry, Cohiba, Dji Sam Soe, Cotton candy, Minty Chocolate, Roast Chestnut, Absinthe, Apple pie, Raspberry to name just a few would have to look in my box for the others and thats at home.

The one thing I love about the C is that I can change flavours as and when, with no problems what so ever. I regularly change from cigar flavours to fruit flavours with no major problems, new cart in 4 - 5 vapes and new flavour flows through.

[Knoton]

Really good idea knoton.

Not really had any major dramas with the eGo as of yet.

First atty lasted just over 2 weeks(might seem short to some but I go through between 7 - 10ml a day so had a lot of juice through it) even then it was me who destroyed it, just had to take it apart to see what it was like.

I use old style carts and hard caps till they get worn then change over to soft caps, have found the soft caps last longer and don't distort, only down side is you loose about .1ml in the cart.

The one thing I love about the C is that I can change flavours as and when, with no problems what so ever. I regularly change from cigar flavours to fruit flavours with no major problems, new cart in 4 - 5 vapes and new flavour flows through.

Thanks 

It would be great if you could add some info.
Are all your atty heads coming from same strip
What Flaovurs do you use in it?

Info that is good to track trends with...

[vp_smoker]

OOPS sorry knoton, have edited my post.

[caz]

I've not had any problems with the ego c so far,  infact after 3 years of vaping this is the best atomiser i have ever used,  in regards to throat hit, vapour and flavour. After 3 weeks with the one atty i'm currently using its still providing the crackling (love that sound, to me its the sound of a healthy atomiser)  usually that sound goes within a couple of days of using any other atomiser.  I've tested a couple from 3 different strips and all seem great.      I am very impressed with the ego c.  

I vape about 2-3 mls per day
Red Label State Express
Been using the same atomiser for about 3 weeks now.
Dont clean them only the odd blow through.
Never had any leaking with the ego c or the tornado tanks
I only use the hard plastic caps and very rarely have to change the caps.
I dont suck the life out of them,  just light slow controlled draws,  work perfectly for me




 Its worth noting on this thread that in regards to cleaning of atomisers,  that anything other than a blow through will null and void any warranty left on atomisers.   This includes boiling,  running hot water through them, soaking them in cola and dry burning them
  

[8Ball]

Great idea Knoton!

I've been using the "C" since I received it for review at the end of November.

The atty that I received for review lasted me just over six weeks, and it would have lasted longer if I hadn't tried (and failed) a dry burn.

I've since bought a kit and an additional strip of spare attys.

I'm currently using three attys that came in the kit, and they're all still vaping great (been using them for around three weeks now).

All my juices are all VG mixes that I make myself, and in the "C"s I primarily vape Doppio, Absinthe, Belgian Waffle, and Irish Cream (the last two are flavor concentrates from another vendor, and Belgian Waffle is a known atty-killer).

I switch devices throughout the day (with different flavors and nic strengths), but because I'm a chain vaper, I still manage to get through around 1 - 1.5ml a day through each of my "C"s (on a guess).

I change tank carts almost every time I need to refill them, and I use whatever clean cart comes to hand, and I use both hard and soft caps.

I don't do any maintenance..... no blow-throughs..... no dry burns (except for that one that killed my 6+ week old atty)..... no soaks, washes, rinses, or repeats.

[scott197875]

hello to all
lets see
2-3 ml of carmel popcorn and/or clove flavor juice
1st atty 10 days popped RIP, 2nd and 3rd atty's 7days they lost flavor opened them up and gunk filled 60% of ceramic cup, all were from strip in kit
no leaks from hard cap tanks.
didn't do any cleaning on 1st 3 atty, now on no.4. I am blowing out at night and draining over night
draw method is slow long pull with a quick after draw to get the left over vapor that loves to condense.
4th atty is from new strip i purchased.

[auntiekim]

Only problems I have are in cold weather, -vaping outdoors or in cold hanger
(I have the same thing with the tornado 'T' tank atomisers)
LR's seem to be more sensative to the cold, or maybe just highlight the wicking issues
Wicking seems to be a problem then (I think the issue is that in the cold the juice is too thick to wick properly)
(thankfully CE2's work well in the cold)

In the warm no issues

I vape 4-5 ml daily
I use mainly DV marshmallow or banana split, small amounts of raspberry PR
LR atties still vaping nicely after aprox 50mls through them (2 atties in use)
normal atties still vaping nicely after aprox 100mls (2 atties in use)
Still using original kit normal atties and 1 strip of LR's
I rotate the atties, 4-5 days use then blow through and boiling water flush and dry

I use soft caps (and take them off to fill)

Only times I thought I had issues apart from cold, I realised I was hungry and I was drawing VERY hard

No leaking
 

[Knoton]

 Its worth noting on this thread that in regards to cleaning of atomisers,  that anything other than a blow through will null and void any warranty left on atomisers.   This includes boiling,  running hot water through them, soaking them in cola and dry burning them
  

CAZ,

Are you really sure about this.
The dry burning procedure is suggested in the manual for the Eco-C?
Strange to suggest something in a manual that would void warranty.


Fantastic response from everyone, soon there might be enough data to maybe see somekind of trends 

[cyborg]

Nothing but problems for me.

I really want to like the C ( for the short time they work they are great ) but all the atomisers that came with the kit only lasted a few days each.

I can’t remember exactly the amounts of liquid before the atomiser either gave a horrid burnt taste or simply stopped working, I estimate 6ml a day for a few days definitely less than a week.

I used VG mixes - Doppio Espresso, Absinthe & Roast Chestnut.
I use the soft caps / No leaks at all

I normally don’t do any atty cleaning but as the C attys gave a horrid burnt taste within a day or so I had to try.

 Atty 1  Removed the spike but the wick was stuck fast to the coil puling it out of the spike, I intended to re-wick but destroyed the coil when attempting to get the wick unstuck.

Atty 2 simply stopped working, disassembled it, everything looked fine but it was dead.

Attys 3,4,5 Burnt taste that I couldn’t get rid of whatever I  attempted
                                                ………………………………………………
I ordered an extra strip of attys with the kit, If I hadn’t I would never have used them again.
The first of the extra ones is working but I haven’t really used it as the experience with the original kit ones put me off them completely.
                                               ……………………………………………..
Final conclusion
The worst experience of any atty I have ever used, if I was new to vaiping I would have thought it was my fault doing something wrong but that isn’t the case.
                                                 ……………………………………………..
When I first got the kit I recommended the C to other people I will not be doing that again.
I now wish I had returned them for inspection but at the time I simply put it down to bad luck with a bad batch.
 

[caz]

  Its worth noting on this thread that in regards to cleaning of atomisers,  that anything other than a blow through will null and void any warranty left on atomisers.   This includes boiling,  running hot water through them, soaking them in cola and dry burning them
 

CAZ,

Are you really sure about this.
The dry burning procedure is suggested in the manual for the Eco-C?
Strange to suggest something in a manual that would void warranty.


Fantastic response from everyone, soon there might be enough data to maybe see somekind of trends 

Yes absolutely positive about this knoton,  straight from customer service themselves.

Hi all

First of all I am sorry to hear that a couple of you seem to be having problems with your EGO C atomizers.
Please contact me to discuss louise@totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk (you too Tara )

Secondly, the instructions posted here, although are from the Joyetech Manufacturers, are not part of the TW Ego C manual. We do not advise customers to 'dry burn' atomizers as this can cause irreversible damage to the atomizers. Please refrain from doing this unless you are willing to understand that this will invalidate any warranty on the atomizers.

When cleaning an atomizer, the only thing you should need to do is blow through them at the end of each day to remove any residue that has accumilated through that day.
Cleaning with vodka, soda crystals, coke etc will again invalidate your warranty.

Thanks
Louise

Taken from this thread -  http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/forum/e-cig-videos-and-hardware-reviews/12hrs-with-an-ego-c/msg244431/#msg244431

[8Ball]

The first of the extra ones is working but I haven’t really used it as the experience with the original kit ones put me off them completely.

Hi cy..... I certainly understand your reluctance to use the "C" after the bad experience you've had with it, but I was wondering if you'd be willing to use it a bit more, purely in the interest of research you understand.    I have a theory that it may be some sort of manufacturing issue we're seeing here because it seems that those who are having problems are experiencing it with one atty after another, and all from the same strip.  Whereas those of us who are not having any problems (other than a few one-offs) are having good luck with an entire strip of attys.  Since the atty you're now using is from a new strip I'd be interested in seeing how it preforms, and if it preforms well, if the rest of the attys in that strip also are gooduns.  Cheers mate!

[The Vape Escape]

Agreed 8, I too wonder if its mainly just a case of batches of defective strips?  It's a frustrating situation huh? I mean, those with tons of problems, others like you and I that are not having any issues at all? Just really want to get to the bottom of this, so we can all enjoy the dam things!   
  Sometimes I wish they would hurry up and make the Star Trek transporter system. It is great that we are all from different parts of the Globe but sometimes I do think how awesome it would be, if we could all meet up for a night. We could all bring both our favourite and our problem devices, get them on the table and get a lot of these issues solved in no time! and get to drink a cheeky biffta into the bargain! 

Ive been using mine for about a month. I am using the original strip of 5 atties. The first popped completely dead after exactly two weeks. The second is now coming up to two weeks and is still going strong. I must stress that I always have 2 PV's on the go at any one time (one baccy/one fruit) one prize one goal.. one golden glance.. Oops, sorry ignore that last bit.been listening to Queen on the radio 
 Im using pre mix 18mg mainly and get through two Tanks in each per day. I was using a DCT as my second PV for fruit as its far superior taste wise (to me) but waiting on parts. So have fired up my 3rd attie from the strip, so far, that's chugging like a chimney too? 

Just my two cents..

[cyborg]

The first of the extra ones is working but I haven’t really used it as the experience with the original kit ones put me off them completely.

Hi cy..... I certainly understand your reluctance to use the "C" after the bad experience you've had with it, but I was wondering if you'd be willing to use it a bit more, purely in the interest of research you understand.    I have a theory that it may be some sort of manufacturing issue we're seeing here because it seems that those who are having problems are experiencing it with one atty after another, and all from the same strip.  Whereas those of us who are not having any problems (other than a few one-offs) are having good luck with an entire strip of attys.  Since the atty you're now using is from a new strip I'd be interested in seeing how it preforms, and if it preforms well, if the rest of the attys in that strip also are gooduns.  Cheers mate!

OK 8Ball will do.
I was saving them for when I am driving but I have now got the DCT’s for that.
After all I have bought the things and really like them (when they work)
One thing I forgot to mention was that I used 1 or 2 on an SD so was wondering if the extra volts from a new battery killed those ones, if that is the case I still will not be using them.
So purely in the interest of research I am reluctantly using one now.

The thing is if you can get a full bad strip and you are like me who stockpiles, by the time I open a strip any warranty will be void, that doesn’t normally bother me but if I have say 5 strips in reserve and they are all as bad as my first ones I think I would be a little annoyed to say the least.

Hopefully my next post on this will be some weeks away when this one bites the dust.   

[Lettie22]

No problems with my eGo-c

Amount of juice per day:   about 1.25ml on 2 different devices -- going all day
What juices being used with it:  18ml titan menthol and 11mg titan apple on 1, 18ml titan menthol mixed with fruity concentrates on the other
What type of tank being used:    the one that came with kit
What tank cap being used (hard/soft):  soft
Number of atties used and maybe if from different strips of 5:   all from the same strip
Average lifetime of each atty:   they are both still going strong after about 3 weeks
How you clean it (blow out, dry burning):   blow out every other day and wipe down of all threads and battery connections; did a complete dry burn on both of them (taking
       the spikes off because no matter what I did, I could not see the red glow from dry burning without taking them off) a few days ago.

[lordy]

One thing I forgot to mention was that I used 1 or 2 on an SD so was wondering if the extra volts from a new battery killed those ones, if that is the case I still will not be using them.

I've used mine on the SD and had no issues at all. Just to eliminate one possibility.

  Its worth noting on this thread that in regards to cleaning of atomisers,  that anything other than a blow through will null and void any warranty left on atomisers.   This includes boiling,  running hot water through them, soaking them in cola and dry burning them

Caz I'm not trying to cause controversy here, but the dry burn instructions are indeed in the Ego C manual - both the manuals in the kits, and the PDF manual on the Joye website.. Legally if TW refuses to fulfil its warranty obligations when someone has followed the included instructions then TW could end up in hot water. All I'm saying is that if you definitely should not dry burn, it should definitely not be in the manual.

Not that it matters to me - I agree with Cyborg. When you place an order you tend to stockpile... which makes it all the more frustrating if you purchase a strip of sub-standard attys. Thankfully I haven't had this problem.

[Lettie22]

Lordy, I'm pretty sure those dry-burn instructions are only in Joytech's manual . . . not TW's manual.  So if you buy from TW, there in nothing in there about dry burning.   I believe I questioned in another thread why TW didn't include that in their manual.

[Rtsjr]

The same devices. Joye is the manufacturer so their manual should trump all others. Do we have a lawyer in here? Hehehe

I love my C. It gives me no problems at all! All types of juices. 2 months later, same first atty.

[Lettie22]

Rich, I know that would seem to make sense, but if TW choses not to include it in "their" manual, then they will not be liable on the guarantee for persons deciding to dry burn.   However, peeps might be able to get Joye to replace it as the manufacturer and it being included in their manual.   But, I like you, have had not one bit of trouble with mine and love the flavor!

[Rtsjr]

Lol I know how it works but it's funny. Think of it like buying a Lamborghini but the dealer says if you go over 35mph you void your warranty. Oo burn!

[Knoton]

We need more post of people having troubles...
However I am more and more getting a feeling it could be bad batches out there..

[The Vape Escape]

Well, I dont know about the rest of you but when I purchased my Ego C, it came with two manuals.. One from TW and the official one from Joye? The TW one has no mention of Dry burning but the Joye one lists it as part of the cleaning proceedure?   So this is the thing, either TW need to take that manual out of each box or speak to Joye and get this resolved. The thing is, dry burning does work (as we know) however, we also know that if you over cook it by just a few seconds, then you're likely to bugger up the Atty completely?   So I can kinda see why TW dont want people doing it.. Hmm bit of a tricky one huh?  

[Lettie22]

We need more post of people having troubles...
However I am more and more getting a feeling it could be bad batches out there..

I think you're right Knoton.  I think poor Tara has gotten 2 bad strips!

[Knoton]

We need more post of people having troubles...
However I am more and more getting a feeling it could be bad batches out there..

I think you're right Knoton.  I think poor Tara has gotten 2 bad strips!

Someone please save her and give her one good C-Atty head 
She really should have the joy of one great one.
I am way to far away.

[Tara]

Ok Ive just posted on my original thread re: what has come from TW Customer Service so folks can go and read it there ( including the statement from CS categorically stating that you will void your warranty if you do a dry burn)

But for research purposes, I vape anywhere between 3 and 6ml a day depending.
All of it on the same PV
I really don't draw particularly hard, but I do draw often and have noticed the C gets much warmer than the T
I use either all VG or high VG Juices - recently juices made by someone who "isn't" having problems with the C atty.
I've been through 7 atomisers in a month!!!!!!!

[cyborg]

Same 6ml a day & same fail rate with me Tara 

[lordy]

I have been known to be wrong!

Apologies... I thought I'd seen the dry burn instructions in the TW manual - I'm obviously mistaken 

[VicP]

Hi,

I can’t remember all the details of all the atties I’ve gone through so I’ll post the data I’m 100% about. I won’t bother with the two that didn’t work straight from the strip and were replaced.

I vape between 2.5 and 5 ml per day. On the C I have only vaped TW fruit and menthol flavours. Coffee has been used on my old T Tanks.

First atty was fantastic, not a problem in two weeks use. Never died but in the end the draw was very tight.

Most recent atty lasted 24 hours, started 6th Feb evening and by evening of the 7th was no flavour and plasticy burn undertone taste, difficult to draw on. Put new atty in using same kit and everything was back to perfect. Blew it out but no improvement. Have called TW regarding this one and am not attempting to dry burn.

The above has happened with two others but took longer, between two and four days.

I have three in my waste basket here that I tried to dry burn on Monday night but this did not improve anything. I then took the spike off and two were immediately ruined as the wick was welded to the coil. The third I dry burned but it did not improve.

I’m on my second strip and am now on my 9th atty, I put this atty in about 4.30 tonight and so far it’s lovely.

I blow out every night and clean the connections on every battery change.

I hope this thread helps sort these issues out as I love the C and don’t want to move on.

Victoria.

[The Vape Escape]

Ok.. just a quick update for the record. I seem to have suffered the curse of posting that I had no issues with my C!  It's only a minor one but one of my atties that I've only had on for 24 hours is being a bit temperamental. It started drawing fluid through that hasn't vaporised. The Ego batt was showing Sky Blue colour so should only be half used. So i tried putting on my freshly charged battery and its back to working fine? Now, whilst it could be the battery, I think its more likely that the resistance has shot up on this Atom and so its needed more juice to fire well. That said.. these Ego batteries are supposed to have constant voltage until it's time for bed? So I will have to try and find my Voltage meter later and see where the Bear sits?! 

Hmm.. If your Ego is working perfectly.. Do not post here!