Tornado Ego-C, Teamwork to figure out some problems

[Astrecks]

The eGo C works out of the box for most people, but I concede that it does not suit everyone

[Tango]

I beg to differ Astrecks. The Ego-T ( Tornado ) did, the Ego-C doesn't. The number of posts I have read all point to a lousy wicking system. I have used a load of C attys ( all Joyetech ) and all required some adjustment to get a good vape. I have tried everything, priming at first use and so on. All I ask is that Joyetech look at the issue which appears to be bringing a potentially brilliant concept into disrepute. The C atty gunks up really fast and I am sure once again the wick is the culprit. I am experimenting with stainless steel wicking at the moment, re-wicked an A cone and it worked a treat.

[Kenneth131]

tango just watch it doesnt short your battery using a metal wick. I cant decide if its the coil or wick although the wick or both tbh to blame. I have easily rewicked an ego c atty.

I use the LR c attys and just plug and play no issues so far anyway and although some perform slightly better than others i wouldnt say from my experience its massively noticeable

[Astrecks]

I beg to differ Astrecks. The Ego-T ( Tornado ) did, the Ego-C doesn't. .............

I beg to differ also! lol,  if you look at the forum history similar things were discussed about the TT when it first appeared. Forums do tend to concentrate on negativity, and people are less likely to say something works well than those that have a problem with a product, and that's natural of course and what forums are about

I'd be interested in how your "genesis" mesh wick turns out, such wicks have always intrigued me.

[Tango]

I appreciate that people tend to complain more congratulate, that is human nature. Spend good money on something that doesn't properly and hey presto. I am not slagging the Ego-C totally, it works great, when the wick is corrected, which in my case is too often. I read a lot from Tara in some earlier posts, yet I still bought and Ego-C, must have been nuts. My experiment with S/S wicks has worked a treat. Just roll the mesh to size, heat with a cooks blow torch and quench in water 3 times. Soak with E-Liquid and flambe a further 3 times. Also re-wicked with fibre glass wick to compare performance. The fibre glass wick is very thin and difficult to work with but the how to video on the forum worked ok. The S/S is easier towork with and I believe will last a lot longer, Perhaps someone will produce lengths of treated S/S wick, now there is a business opportunity for some young blood.     

[Astrecks]

Hi tango, I have genuinely not experienced the same difficulties that you have had with the eGo-C atomizer, but perhaps I'm lucky but I did experience problems with the TT when they first appeared. As the TT atomizer was over £10 at the time and as a heavy vaper I looked at way of prolonging their life and shared my tips on here in the same way as yourself,

Encouraging debate is the only way forward for us all in the hope that those in the right places will pick up on possible answers and work them through.

As for wicks "gunking" up, that maybe a different story, and is down to the non-volatiles in the eliquid, and I find the clearer the liquid the less this happens, but in some cases to produce flavours people like it is not possible to remove all of them. I feel the mesh wick could possibly suffer the same, but I would love to be proven wrong of course!

I can tell you that now TW is moving towards production with full control rather than as a supplier with arbitrary control things will improve, but alas it is not an overnight thing.

In the meantime the forum has a duty (that it fills brilliantly due to it's incredible membership) to help those that are finding problems and help solve them.

I thank you Sir!

[Lettie22]

I appreciate that people tend to complain more congratulate, that is human nature. Spend good money on something that doesn't properly and hey presto. I am not slagging the Ego-C totally, it works great, when the wick is corrected, which in my case is too often. I read a lot from Tara in some earlier posts, yet I still bought and Ego-C, must have been nuts. My experiment with S/S wicks has worked a treat. Just roll the mesh to size, heat with a cooks blow torch and quench in water 3 times. Soak with E-Liquid and flambe a further 3 times. Also re-wicked with fibre glass wick to compare performance. The fibre glass wick is very thin and difficult to work with but the how to video on the forum worked ok. The S/S is easier towork with and I believe will last a lot longer, Perhaps someone will produce lengths of treated S/S wick, now there is a business opportunity for some young blood.     

Wow Tango, I'd love to try one of your S/S wicks!!! Which side of the pond are you on?   Wanna trade some liquid for a wick?   

What size wire mesh do you use?

[RichJr]

Got my -C as a tester in nov. and I'm only on my second atty in 6 months!!!!! Works perfectly.
Just wanted to add that.

As for the wicks, I'm also intrigued.

[robocog]

My C has been working fine today after my initial teething troubles
been through a few tank top ups and no dry hits or funky tastes

Odd as I am not doing anything differently as far as I can tell
Maybe they need time to "break in"? (or the owners do..LOL)

also intrigued ref the SS wick system

Regards
Rob

[Tango]

Hey guys, check out Youtube Ego-C wick replacement by BAzz. Lettie the mesh I have used is the same as the video, 400 S/S, costs £7.99 per A4 sheet +p&p £2 in the UK, sorry Lettie. Glad to hear some folks are having no issues. The flavour and vapour is frankly excellent with the C but the number a attys I have used is unfunny. I have had a Tornado T for 8 months and have only used up 6 A cones, still have 4 left, unused at the moment. I have had a C for 5 weeks and used up 7 attys? I only use PG or 80%PG 20%VG and light colours only, RY4 or Virginia. 

[Varkhond]

wich part is the atty on a ego-c? Im not english and i dunnot understand it...

[Tango]

The little cylinder with the spike on that sits in the cup that you screw the cone onto. Hope that helps. my Danish is non-exitent. Cheers/Skol.

[RichJr]

wich part is the atty on a ego-c? Im not english and i dunnot understand it...

[Varkhond]

The little cylinder with the spike on that sits in the cup that you screw the cone onto. Hope that helps. my Danish is non-exitent. Cheers/Skol.

Thank you i understand now! 

[RichJr]

The little cylinder with the spike on that sits in the cup that you screw the cone onto. Hope that helps. my Danish is non-exitent. Cheers/Skol.

Thank you i understand now!  

My picture didn't help? LoL just kidding! Glad you understand now and thank you Tango for helping a fellow vaper.

[Lettie22]

Hey guys, check out Youtube Ego-C wick replacement by BAzz. Lettie the mesh I have used is the same as the video, 400 S/S, costs £7.99 per A4 sheet +p&p £2 in the UK, sorry Lettie. Glad to hear some folks are having no issues. The flavour and vapour is frankly excellent with the C but the number a attys I have used is unfunny. I have had a Tornado T for 8 months and have only used up 6 A cones, still have 4 left, unused at the moment. I have had a C for 5 weeks and used up 7 attys? I only use PG or 80%PG 20%VG and light colours only, RY4 or Virginia. 

Tango, doesn't that s/s wick melt the plastic cartridges??    Someone told me they tried it and got a plastic taste?

[Astrecks]

It shouldn't its only serving the same function as the silica wick

[Tango]

Hi Lettie, no it doesn't melt anything, Astrecks quiet right. Just remember to oxidise the S/S thoroughly ( that is absolutely vital ) and treat the oxidised wick with E-Liquid prior to use. I have been using the S/S wick for 2 days and it is working great, so far. I have a stack of C&T atties that have clean and glowing coils but no wicks, gonna be busy methinks. I am even going to re-wick a brand new straight out of the strip C-Atty, just for fun, haven't had a C last longer than 5 days so far, wick gone with them all. Wish me luck cobber. 

[Lettie22]

I do wish you luck Tango.   I'm going to have to have a go at that, but gotta get supplies first!

Sorry to hear about your C wicks not lasting than 5 days -- that is just not right!

[Tango]

Just an update on the S/S wicks. Been using 2 re-wicked C- atties in rotation for, get this,  7 YES 7 days. Approx 20 ml juice through each one. No gunk on the coil, no dark brown juice in the tanks and no lousy burnt taste. Anyone else given this a try yet? How about you Lettie? It is soooo easy to do, once you get the hang of it. So much easier than silica ( fibre glass ) wick.    

[VicP]

Hi Tango, I'm desperate to try this but as yet haven't got any mesh. I'll report back once I've tried it.

Victoria.

[Lettie22]

Just an update on the S/S wicks. Been using 2 re-wicked C- atties in rotation for, get this,  7 YES 7 days. Approx 20 ml juice through each one. No gunk on the coil, no dark brown juice in the tanks and no lousy burnt taste. Anyone else given this a try yet? How about you Lettie? It is soooo easy to do, once you get the hang of it. So much easier than silica ( fibre glass ) wick.    

I did try to make 2 of them.   Borrowed the neighbors propane thingie, but didn't have much luck.    First, I found that it was really difficult to make it skinny enough, but I didn't have 400 mesh.   Mine was probably about 150 mesh.   I guess I'm gonna have to order the 400 mesh.   I watched BAzz's video a couple of time and he made that part seem so easy!   Poohie, I wish I could just buy some of these things!  I have another friend that is going to try and make some and we've been PMing back and forth.  

One thing tho, I have seen 400 mesh and the mesh they use originally in these atty is not as dense as the 400.

[Tango]

Don't understand about the 400 mesh being used in the atties, there isn,t any mesh in the C atty. The 400 mesh is the sort they use in high end devices, like the Genesis Maxi. Rolling the 400 mesh is really easy and just keep rolling the little sausage until it fits in the spike, not to tight, it must slip in and out of the spike real easy. Also when you oxidise the sausage with your blowtorch use a straightened paper clip through the centre, this little hole is also essential to good wicking. Sounds tough but if I can do it anyone can. I am just delighted that I have had a couple of atties that now work great. Good look Lettie and hey Victoria good luck to you too. 

[VicP]

Tango, are you in the UK? If so, where are you getting the mesh please?

Thanks.

[Lettie22]

Tango, there is wire mesh that goes around the silica on the c atties.   I believe they use it to help keep the silica in place in the spike.  I can take a photo and post it if you'd like! 

[Ed]

Tango, there is wire mesh that goes around the silica on the c atties.   I believe they use it to help keep the silica in place in the spike.  I can take a photo and post it if you'd like! 

Interesting... There's certainly no wire mesh in the two c atties I've used so far.

[VicP]

Mine have all had a piece of wire mesh holding the wick in place inside the spike plate. I've removed this and used it to follow Bazz's vid. It didn't work using it but then my 'sausage' was only 3mm wide.

[Lettie22]

Here is a photo that was posted by Astrecks in another thread.   It is a photo of the wicks in the Tornado, but he says it is the same for the C, only a little smaller scale, which I agree. 

[Lettie22]

Thanks Astrecks.  I do realize that it is not the same, but there is that wire mesh in the c atties.

The site you provided will certainly help VicP, but not me -- I'm on the other side of the pond! 

Thanks tho!

[Astrecks]

There is lots of "mesh" in the 510 and Tornado tank atomisers if you strip them down, but the only mesh in the eGo-C atomizer is what holds the wick in the "spike"

You could Google "400 stainless steel mesh".... I'm sure there are plenty of suppliers of the stuff in the USA