Tornado Ego-C, Teamwork to figure out some problems

[Knoton]

I only use one pv with the same atty head all the time.
I have no problems at all. For the sake of experiement I have even tried to chain vape it as a maniac.
It do get hot, but I get no problems. I really think this is a matter of quality control.
There gotta be some bad batches out there.
The old Tornado Tank I have a lot of trouble with. burnt taste mostly, poor wicking.
The mega version is better though.
Since I have not had any of the bad batches of atty heads yet I can for sure say that I would never
trade the C for the old tornado tank atty.
I really think we should be careful with saying things like it is only for the light vaper.
Jason himself says that he or TW dont stand behind that remark from that CS.
We want a solution to the problem not just one type of user using it.
Let us all hope that joyetech change the wick or at least how it get assembled to the spike.
If it is the wick that is the problem. I still wait for Jeff or someone else to examine the bad ones
and come with some answers.

[Tara]

We want a solution to the problem not just one type of user using it.
Let us all hope that joyetech change the wick or at least how it get assembled to the spike.
If it is the wick that is the problem. I still wait for Jeff or someone else to examine the bad ones
and come with some answers.

Well I'm now using the 3rd suspect atty, but I'm not holding out any hopes for a long and fruitful life so I'm nearly there as far as returning them goes, .

But the 2nd of the suspect atty's I had remaining is still going like a trooper, I'm pushing at least 3mls a day through it and I've hit the 15mls mark, I said I would return it for inspection at 20mls so they could compare a good one with one of my bad ones, but I don't want to let it go waaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VicP]

Thanks for posting Pillbox. I'm glad you have confirmed that the C is suitable for 3.5ml per day, it was me that posted the advice from CS, I didn't believe it could be true to the extent that I put it in writing back to CS.

I shall now merrily go back to one PV!

Good luck with getting to the bottom of this.

Victoria.

[Carl75]

I have come to the conclusion that all these new cartomiser systems are not suitable for the medium to heavy vaper and I have returned to the original tornado tank system. Here's the products I've tried

Ce3s

At least 2 in every 5 pack I've had we're doa.
They all leaked no matter what method I used to fill them up.
Each one would last me about 5 days.
They started to blow battery's.

Ce4s

All of the above except the battery issue.
Burnt taste
The tops keep popping off in my pocket leaking fluid everywhere.

DCts

I've got through 3 in one week. They only seem to like one full 3.5 tank then taste and vapour production disappear.

The only upside I have seen with the above products is the flavour it's amazing but I don't want to keep forking out cash on unreliable products anymore. I just want to fill up and forget about it like I can on the original tornado tank. Each one of them can keep me going over a month with proper maintenance.

I was really looking forward to trying the ego cs but with the cost of the full kit (I just want the spares I have enough batteries) and problems that have been reported I will wait and see what tw can come up with next.

[Lettie22]

Hi everyone,

more of a standard question than a problem. Yesterday I went on a visit and shoved my Ego-C in my handbag, having only spares in case battery dies in the little wallet.
After an hour and a half, when I took it out, the whole cone was full of liquid, that had probably leaked from the cartridge. Does it mean I filled the cartridge too much or is it just because it's been mistreated in my handbag?

Perhaps at some point when it was in your purse, the battery button came on and that's why you had the leak???   Did you press the battery 5 times to turn it off before placing in your purse?  Not sure if this could have been the reason and hope someone comes along with more expertise and comments here for you!

[cram]

I had a leaking problem with the C for a while. Was getting juice in my mouth after vamping 60% of the tank away. Figured I had to be doing something wrong...
Scientifically tested a few theories... found that if I didn't tighten the atty on the battery the draw would improve and the liquid in the mouth problem would subside.

I think that improving the air flow from bottom of the atomizer base decreases the vacuum on the tank. Thus, not as much liquid being drawn into the atomizer. The atomizer can't vaporize all the extra liquid, and with no where else to go, it works its way up the mouth piece or pools in the base.

I also stopped setting the atomizer vertically when not in use.

works like a champ now...

[cyborg]

I know what’s wrong
I have been corresponding with CS and they have sent fast responses
My conclusion from the answers I have received is that I don’t know how to vape properly.

CS - “ The Ego C’s when used correctly, have a much longer lifespan than many atomizers “

It’s that simple I don’t know how to vape so I must pop into the newbie section & learn my stuff.

But seriously they did send advice that could help some people.
 CS -“The secret to the longevity of an Ego C, is to keep your cartridge topped up, to not use a dense fluid (e.g one mixed primarily with Glycerine) ”
   &
“The variables included in the use of an e-cig vary to such a degree that it is difficult to determine an absolute fluid usage.
It very much depends on the liquid being used and how the user inhales on the device and how frequently.”

[Tara]

But seriously they did send advice that could help some people.
 CS -“The secret to the longevity of an Ego C, is to keep your cartridge topped up, to not use a dense fluid (e.g one mixed primarily with Glycerine) ”

ROFPMSL

Seriously though, doesn't 8ball mix primarily with Glycerine (and puffer has a high AG content I'm pretty sure) and they have got marathon atty's?

[The Vape Escape]

I really think we should be careful with saying things like it is only for the light vaper.

Well, I don't think anyone IS saying that this product is only suitable for the light vaper in a permanent sense are they?.. Apart from one C'S individual whom Jason himself has admitted was fairly new to the job?   This product is designed for, and should be suitable for ANYONE who wants a good quality PV regardless of Vaping style, frequency of use, single, multiple use etc..  What I am saying however, is that until the issues with the atties are resolved.. Be it bad batches or anything else.. I honestly couldn't recommend it whole heartedly to someone as their only PV of choice. I appreciate that opinions vary and I'm also speaking as someone who hasn't had that many problems with mine either but I do sense that I would run into problems if it was all I was using.. Especially with this current 3rd atty I'm using now. I never had a single problem with the standard T atty but it's all horses for courses I guess? Different strokes for different folks as they say. I still think that if they get these little issues resolved, maybe even make a revised atty if deemed necessary.. Then this will be the best all round PV available!  

[Darth Vaper]

LOL cyborg three years in and I'm still learning how to vape to.

Tara I think it is a real posibility the reviewers were given prime factory samples... That first evaluation lot represented the pallets of goods TW would buy monthly.



Please don't haze the reviewers guys there an honest bunch and why they were chosen.

[Tara]

Please don't haze the reviewers guys there an honest bunch and why they were chosen.

Ummm I wasn't I was pointing out that these are guys on the forum that I know use higher than "normal" AG ratios (something I also do) and they aren't having problems. I'd actually totally forgotten they were part of the original review team.

*throws hands in the air and gives up trying to keep a smiley face on*

[caz]

Hi Cyborg


I'm sure customer services didnt mean to imply you didnt know how to vape or the device not working was in anyway your fault,  maybe some of it was taken out of context,    lol i'm with darth though,  i'm still learning how to use all these new products and how to vape,  still cant get much vapour as others can 

Maybe we should all reset all our post counts and introduce ourselves again in the new members section everytime a new product comes out 

On a serious note though as Jason stated earlier in this thread,  they are aware of these issues some members are experiencing and have alerted the manufacturers to read these threads.   We appreciate your patience at this time and hopefully will get some more feedback soon. 

[privatecaller]

If you have no problem write that...
Type of problem with the atty (Leaking, dry taste, coil clogging fast, shortlived..)
Amount of juice per day
What juices being used with it.
What type of tank being used
What tank cap being used (hard/soft)
Number of atties used and maybe if from different strips of 5
Average lifetime of each atty
How you clean it (blow out, dry burning)
Something more useful someone else could think of?

type of problem with attys 1 & 2 - horrible harsh burnt taste, atty 3 - 4 burnt taste draws,then one average,then back to burnt.
amount of juice per day is probably 3ml per atty though obviously with these attys it's probably below 1ml!
using standard tanks and caps (hard) which came with the set.

tried using different mixtures of juice with it as i use my own,high % VG mixes seem to work better.

used 5 atties from strip of 5, 1 really good,1 pretty good,3 really bad.
can't tell you the average lifetime as none are dead yet,have only been using them 5 days.
blow it out before cleaning it and give it a couple dry vapes(not sure if right phrase?drawing without power) before vaping.

going to send 3 back to TW having spoke to CS and i have a new strip of 5 i bought so i'm gnna test those out in the next few days to see how they are.

alternating the 2 atties that are working every couple hours and i'm trying out a soft cap to see if theres much difference.

[cyborg]

Hi Cyborg


I'm sure customer services didnt mean to imply you didnt know how to vape or the device not working was in anyway your fault,  maybe some of it was taken out of context,    lol i'm with darth though,  i'm still learning how to use all these new products and how to vape,  still cant get much vapour as others can 

Maybe we should all reset all our post counts and introduce ourselves again in the new members section everytime a new product comes out 

On a serious note though as Jason stated earlier in this thread,  they are aware of these issues some members are experiencing and have alerted the manufacturers to read these threads.   We appreciate your patience at this time and hopefully will get some more feedback soon. 

I did apologise to CS my post was made jokingly but taken seriously.    

[RichJr]

I use 50% vg undiluted. Wicks great in the C until the temp drops to around 40 or lower then I have to draw harder for the juice to flow. I just grabbed a bottle of pre mixed juice to test the conditions and the premixed is 50/50 like my mixes but is thinned down. The premixed juice wicks GREAT compared to my mixes in the C. Conclusion, I need to mix 5-10% deionized water to my vg. I really don't wan to change the way I mix though. Hmmmm

[VicP]

Final Atty Number 12 (two have been replaced). This is the final atty from a strip that came with my second full kit.

Burnt plastic taste from start. Can get a burnt free taste for two draws if you cold draw it first. Brand new clear tank with silicon cap. TW premixed juice. Tried to vape for ten minutes, now given up.

Frustrated.

[RichJr]

Final Atty Number 12 (two have been replaced). This is the final atty from a strip that came with my second full kit.

Burnt plastic taste from start. Can get a burnt free taste for two draws if you cold draw it first. Brand new clear tank with silicon cap. TW premixed juice. Tried to vape for ten minutes, now given up.

Frustrated.

Whoa! That's a lot of bad atty heads! Hmmm

[scott197875]

morning all
ok first off i'm one of the people that was having issues, active word was.
started a 2 atty's rotatiion to allow me to blow out 1 and use the 2nd, 1 day on then next day 2nd.
blow out and drain every day seems to be working brillantly.
on burnt vapes, this PV is a fine tuned carburater its a completely different tech on the draw and takes practice.
but let me say this for the record
its the best vape i've had in 2+ years of vaping, its like a ferreri great when its running right and horrible if it's not

[8Ball]

Seriously though, doesn't 8ball mix primarily with Glycerine (and puffer has a high AG content I'm pretty sure) and they have got marathon atty's?

Yup, All VG cut with about 5-10% distilled water for me, and I think Ellie's on a 50/50 PG/VG mix......   or something close to that.    I'm still using three out of the first four "C" attys I got, and they're still going strong with no signs of tailing off.

[hawkmoth]

Hi guys, you have piqued my curiosity so I've decided to stop lurking and join in.

I bought the ego c first week of January and am still on my first atomiser. I get through about 2 to 4 mls a day (depends on how busy I am). Its all premade juice as i am just beginning to learn about the wonders of vaping. I blow it through every other day or so and have done two dry burns last week and this week as it was starting to get a bit harder to draw.

I bought another strip of attys last week and thought I'd try one of the new ones to see if there is any difference in quality control as has been suggested. The first thing noticed is that there is a LOT of clear fluid already soaking the new atty which isn't the case with any of the first strip. That obviously means that the first few vapes tasted revolting which didn't happen with either of the first strip I've tried.

It's only been in use half an hour or so but I can definately taste a slightly burnt flavour which doesn't seem to be going away. It's the same juice and battery I've been using all day. I'm using the tanks which came with the kit but I've put soft caps on. I've had no leaks or problems with the kit at all- I tried a (different brand) ecig a couple of years ago but never really got on with it but I have to say the ego c is pretty perfect for me, minimal fuss, easy to use and feeds me nicotine in a way that I much prefer to the original delivery method! I really hope that the atomisers are not going to be so hit and miss we all end up spending a fortune! (Although I've already developed in controllable urges to buy shiny things and new flavours which seems to be a common side effect of vaping).

Tara (no not that one, another one)

[Tara]

Tara (no not that one, another one)

*waves madly because it isn't everyday I find somebody who shares my name, although lots of people tell me they have dogs named Tara - which I NEVER find a compliment*

Welcome, so lovely you de-lurked

[The Vape Escape]

lots of people tell me they have dogs named Tara - which I NEVER find a compliment*

Lol.. Oh dear.. Why would someone tell you that and expect you to find anything positive in it?!  Funny post though! 

P.S.. Welcome Hawkmoth/ The other Tara! 

[hawkmoth]

*waves back*


Yes, I've had the dog thing too!! I also get called Tanya, or Tina or Sara which I suppose is better than oi you but not by much.....

[Timuk]

Having read through this thread yet again I definitely am of the opinion it's all down to the quality of C attys produced after the initial launch....

I am only on my second atty from the original strip that came with my C in December....the first one I killed by mistake...the second is going strong, I do a weekly thorough clean..take apart, burn the wick etc.....

What confirms this is that a I bought a new C kit in early  January and  split it for a couple of mates to try...gave them a one cone, battery and a couple of attys each.....no issues....until one of them bought a new strip a few weeks ago....the original atty I gave him is still going strong....but....he is already on number 3 of the new strip, only found this out today when we all met up for a beer.....have told him to contact customer services....

Just my opinion but I do think that the original / first batch were made under "scrutiny" and then maybe the production was kicked into full throttle and the quality has crashed....

Using my original attys I have no issues, it's a great vape...even the leaking from the top has stopped (I am guessing that was caused by me)....but from what I am a reading once my originals have gone it will be a different story....

I do think this issues needs to be sorted and not just by continuing to sell attys and "see what happens"...

While I am having a gripe I would also like to know when cones will be available......must be soon ?

[8Ball]

...although lots of people tell me they have dogs named Tara - which I NEVER find a compliment*

Welcome, so lovely you de-lurked

Well, the only thing worse than being insulted by total strangers is being insulted by friends and family........      I do hope these were strangers......


Welcome to the forum Tara the 2nd (AKA hawkmoth).  I too am glad you de-lurked and decided to join us.  We're an odd sort (well, I am anyway ).... but you'll find us basically harmless and very friendly and helpful.  Please pull up a chair and join us in a vape and some general lunacy.

[Tara]

*waves back*


Yes, I've had the dog thing too!! I also get called Tanya, or Tina or Sara which I suppose is better than oi you but not by much.....

Ooo I dunno at leat when a person says Oi you they are admitting they forgot your name, when the "mundane" names start rolling off peoples toungues my eyes also start rolling

Actually I used to have two other names I thought were great; when I was teaching I used to let my yr 11's use my first name, to me all this "miss" thing was disingenous if we were teaching young adults to operate in the working world, two of my classes refused to call me that, one (where all the lads were over 6ft and I barely scrape 5ft) used to call me Hobbit, and another (who were my naughty kids who thought they were from the hood) called me M.C. Nulty (my married name is McNulty), both of which are preferable to being called Sara, Tanya or Tina IMNSHO

[Knoton]

Hello Tara (The other one)  
Welcome, glad you stopped lurking.

Oboy we have a slight problem, we cant call you Tara the other one or Tara the 2nd.
That is way to impolite.
I know, as a young teen we had 3 kenneth in the same class, what a catastrophe!
There was a lot of nicknames, most not to my liking at all  
If that happen today, I have a nick that I am more familiar with than my given name.

[Tara]

To put the thread mildly back on track; I've just blown out the 3rd atomiser for probably the last time as I think from an empircal perspective it is going to be good for TW to see a Good, Medium and Bad Atomiser. The first was still vaping (just) but was very clogged and the back wash and blow through was dark brown after just 10mls, the 2nd I stopped vaping at 21mls (7 x 3mls usage) and was going strong (I so didn't want to stop that one); and finally the 3rd tasted burnt pretty much through out but could be coaxed to keep going if I let go of the button and effectvely "re-primed" for a count of 2 before the next draw, and as long as I never did more than 4 draws as a time before I allowed it to cool down, I've stopped at 12ml, it still vapes fine using that technique so i would call it a medium "atomiser". I would say though that I think we can rule my own vaping technique out as there is such a discrepancy between the 3 devices. I'll write up all the notes I've made tomorrow morning and either hop in the car and hand deliver or post it registered and signed for depending what the day brings as my hound might need to see the vet in the morning after a mishap in the peaks today which I've self treated but may need closer attention

[Tara]

OMG NEWS UPDATE THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN NOTICE OF
Soo I can't mention where, but I was researching another device to take away on holiday when I came across (more than a few) negative reviews on the C atty and somebody came up with a "fix" which was ensuring the "vents" on the atty aligned with the intake slots on the tank, its a beautiful thing seriously the atty I was about to consign to "medium" is vaping like a good 'un; by Jove I think I might have cracked it!!

[Darth Vaper]

I went through and checked mine ..... No luck ... still tastes burnt with no flavor