Tornado Ego-C, Teamwork to figure out some problems

[Tara]

I went through and checked mine ..... No luck ... still tastes burnt with no flavor

BUGGER because I seriously thought this one was performing better after 12mls of "vaguely burnt" at best

I soooo want this to work, not least because I want a less "kit intensive" device when I go travelling

[Ed]

OMG NEWS UPDATE THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN NOTICE OF
Soo I can't mention where, but I was researching another device to take away on holiday when I came across (more than a few) negative reviews on the C atty and somebody came up with a "fix" which was ensuring the "vents" on the atty aligned with the intake slots on the tank, its a beautiful thing seriously the atty I was about to consign to "medium" is vaping like a good 'un; by Jove I think I might have cracked it!!

Tara, I tried that out by putting the atty on the base, lined up with the button so that when shield and tip were put on the button and tip would line up. That didn't work, because when putting the shield on and tightening, it moves the atty round... BUT, never mind that, I got it so the vents on the atty lined up with the tank's intake slots and, by jove, you're right, clouds more vapour.!

[Tara]

OMG NEWS UPDATE THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN NOTICE OF
Soo I can't mention where, but I was researching another device to take away on holiday when I came across (more than a few) negative reviews on the C atty and somebody came up with a "fix" which was ensuring the "vents" on the atty aligned with the intake slots on the tank, its a beautiful thing seriously the atty I was about to consign to "medium" is vaping like a good 'un; by Jove I think I might have cracked it!!

Tara, I tried that out by putting the atty on the base, lined up with the button so that when shield and tip were put on the button and tip would line up. That didn't work, because when putting the shield on and tightening, it moves the atty round... BUT, never mind that, I got it so the vents on the atty lined up with the tank's intake slots and, by jove, you're right, clouds of vapour.!

Phew, it isn't just me then, how's the burnt taste?

I have to admit I had to compensate for the slight twist when positioning the atty but I got a reasonable alignment by putting the base on first.

[Ed]

Fortunately, so far, I have rarely experienced the burnt taste.

[Tara]

Well I've just intentionally hammered my way through 2mls in 1 and 1/2 hours; this thing is glowing hot enought to heat a Yurt on the Mongolian plains in the depths of winter and I'm not seeing a drop off; sadly it is now VERY late for me and I'm almost as green as the absinthe I've been vaping so I'm going to have to call it a day, but I'm feeling reasonably positive that for me at least, I might have found a "fix" for "some" of the less reliable atty's, tomorrow however will be the tell, as I will start working through the replacements I got sent from TW with the intention of destruction testing.

[cyborg]

Nothing quite like a spot of testing to destruction 

[Knoton]

Sounds like Joye should make somekind of "tracks" for the head to slip into the housing to be in the right position.

[Lettie22]

Really hoping that Tara found a way to get the bad attys to function better!    However, something was/is seriously wrong with at least a batch of them because many of us have not experienced this problem; so TW does need to look into it and try to figure out what went wrong with the manufacture of those attys.

Cyborg and VicP, did you give your attys a try using Tara's suggestion?  Just wondering!

Paulette

[Tara]

Right Ive been faffing all morning with this thing and I do still think there is "some" creedence in it. I've just run a half a tank with the tank inlets not square on to the little slots on the atty, and there is a drop off in taste and an increase in incidences of scortched tastes; I'm now running a half tank with it all lined up nicely and there is a considerable difference in flavour. So now the proof of the pudding is if I have a "dubious" one will using the technique prolong the life of the atty?

I will keep folks updated.

[cyborg]

Really hoping that Tara found a way to get the bad attys to function better!    However, something was/is seriously wrong with at least a batch of them because many of us have not experienced this problem; so TW does need to look into it and try to figure out what went wrong with the manufacture of those attys.

Cyborg and VicP, did you give your attys a try using Tara's suggestion?  Just wondering!

Paulette

I have given up on the C entirely.
I can’t stand the disappointment any longer, when they work they are the best but my fail rate is abysmal.
If I had got them & didn’t like them I wouldn’t care but when I used the first one I really thought this is the thing for me its brilliant I won’t be using anything else.
The problem is for me at least is I can’t get them to work for longer than a day or so.

You have convinced me to test out this theory so I am going to try it out with one of the attys that survived my frustration and is still in a usable condition.

If this works I foresee problems when changing the battery as the button and mouthpiece probably won’t line up and if I turn the mouthpiece on the tank to line up with the button it will require repositioning of the atty again. (tested that out & the alignment is different on all of them)

I will update later.

[VicP]

I'm afraid the only atties I have left are clogged up and I can not remove the gunk as the wick is gunked to the coil and will break if I remove it.

I would love to have used the C all the time as it'd brilliant when it works. I'm not willing to pay another £20.00 to test it though.

Victoria.

[Lettie22]

Victoria, please contact customer service.   Even if they are older than 28 days -- speak to Louise and I'm sure she will help you out.   She is fully aware of the problems here.

[b3ast1e]

Wow, talk about variable experience - seems the ego-c is going through some serious growing pains. I wonder if there's any consensus about it's future, ie, is the concept good or is there a fatal flaw? If it all hinges on the atty then I'm guessing that subsequent iterations will iron out problems?

 

[hawkmoth]

Just an update from Tara number two (no definitely NOT a name I'd like to stick!). Took my ego to work for some stealth vaping - the atty from the new strip still has a foul taste and I have given up on it. I haven't done any of the faffing around lining up vents but atty number one is back on the ego and vaping like a charm, number 2 is just .... Unpleasant. If I'd got those attys in my kit I think I'd have binned the whole thing. I took it apart and it looks like the real thing except the spike plate is wedged in MUCH tighter- I didn't think I would get it back in. Also it is clearly a different batch because the spike is angled differently on the two strips - why that would make a difference I have no clue!!

[cyborg]

Update
  Tara I think you could have something with the lining things up theory.
I have used one of the bad ones that hadn’t got as far as the bin on an SD all day & its working great.
I used the SD so I didn’t have the inconvenience of lining everything up every time I changed the battery.
I have used 4 Tanks and am back to being impressed with the C, only time can tell if I will stay that way.
I will never use them on a Tornado battery (excluding a pass-through) because the necessity of lining atty, button & mouthpiece every time I change a battery is very irritating whereas on the SD it isn’t a problem.
If you look down the cone you can see the slots in the atty so lining up the Tank is easy.
At the moment I still mark the DCT’s well above the C’s which is a shame because I really want the C concept to work.
For the record I am a 6+ml a day person.

[Tara]

Update
  Tara I think you could have something with the lining things up theory.
I have used one of the bad ones that hadn’t got as far as the bin on an SD all day & its working great.
I used the SD so I didn’t have the inconvenience of lining everything up every time I changed the battery.
I have used 4 Tanks and am back to being impressed with the C, only time can tell if I will stay that way.
I will never use them on a Tornado battery (excluding a pass-through) because the necessity of lining atty, button & mouthpiece every time I change a battery is very irritating whereas on the SD it isn’t a problem.
If you look down the cone you can see the slots in the atty so lining up the Tank is easy.
At the moment I still mark the DCT’s well above the C’s which is a shame because I really want the C concept to work.
For the record I am a 6+ml a day person.

Agreed, I've been using mine on my SD Key ring with a 510 to Ego adapter and it removes a lot of the faff, but the "fix" is still less than desirable and I'm pretty much decided that on a day to day around the house I'll be dding for the foreseeable until the consistency issues are figured out (I would be happy to accept 4 out a strip of 5 not needing this akward work around); I scored a bunch of 901's in the TECC Yoyo so I'm set for a month or two especially as I have decided that I think I might quite like standard 510 cartos too, so next month I might venture into the world of DCTs as they will suit me for driving

[lordy]

Just a quick question which may have been discussed further up... I'm at work right now so not able to read without getting into trouble! Basically I was wondering if the cone itself may be the source of the issue as opposed to the attys?

When I got my kit it came with two cones - one has a draw so ridiculously tight that it's practically unusable. The other has a good draw. The poor draw cone gets through attys far quicker than the cone that gives a good draw. I basically just wrote off one of the cones as one performs flawlessly.

I was just wondering, for those having issues, what the airflow is like?

[Tara]

Just a quick question which may have been discussed further up... I'm at work right now so not able to read without getting into trouble! Basically I was wondering if the cone itself may be the source of the issue as opposed to the attys?

When I got my kit it came with two cones - one has a draw so ridiculously tight that it's practically unusable. The other has a good draw. The poor draw cone gets through attys far quicker than the cone that gives a good draw. I basically just wrote off one of the cones as one performs flawlessly.

I was just wondering, for those having issues, what the airflow is like?

I've tried both cones and I don't think it made any difference, for my tests I used the same cone (and tank and cap) through out for consistency, and I had one bad atomisers (effectively unusuable by 10ml), one good atomiser (still going strong after 20ml), and one mediocre atomiser (still working after 10ml but temperamental throughout - until I changed to the "vent" trick and then it seemed to perform better).

[cyborg]

I have also compared both cones and I don't think it made any difference but I suppose like most things a bad one can slip through.
Is it the actual cone or the atomiser base that is the problem?

[lordy]

Not sure Cyborg - think I'll have to try swapping them when I get home. I've even boiled the base to ensure there was no thin film of gunk causing the issue.

[yeahivape]

I received my kit yesterday and let me say they have received their fair share of abuse since then, both are working strong and giving off clouds of vapor. I have noticed that one atty and cone fit together a lot tighter than the other cone causing the atty to stay in the cone and I needed to tap it out into my hand. This set up provides a inconsistent draw (i.e. it will pull with little to no resistance than tighten up and could even go back to a good draw all in the same inhale. Sometimes no tightness, sometimes enough to make me cough, also there is the occasional burnt tasting hit.) Wondering if this is the atty, the fact the cone might be disformed (warped, too small, what have you) I did notice from the factory, the one cone would not screw flush as easily as the other would, it would take a significantly more amount of force (not ridiculous amounts) to screw the cone down flush, once you do that the atty will no longer stay with the cone but on the base. Regardless the one that is giving me problems the cone does not seem to fit as nicely as the other simply put could this be causing the problem, or is it more likely the atty head itself?


Sorry for the rambling, not too good with technical jargon yet hahaha.

[yeahivape]

** EDIT: I just realized now that it was the one that did fit on better, weird enough. But I feel that was pushing the atty head down onto the base better, now that I think about it. Could this be a problem either way, the cone and atty setup just causing too much restriction?

[Lettie22]

** EDIT: I just realized now that it was the one that did fit on better, weird enough. But I feel that was pushing the atty head down onto the base better, now that I think about it. Could this be a problem either way, the cone and atty setup just causing too much restriction?

I would definitely give Customer Service a call because something is not right!

[hawkmoth]

Still playing around with two different strips of atties and I notice that the whole lot of batch 2 are very slightly bigger than batch one. It means that the cone doesn't seem to fit so well on the larger ones and I suspect that might be changing the airflow through the atomiser slightly. I also dry burned two of the new atomisers - as a newbie I'm a bit nervous about doing that so do it in short bursts until I don't get smoke coming off anymore. Usually doesn't take many goes even when the coil is full of gunk but this stuff the atties come soaked in took loads of burns and smelled atrocious. Also made sure it was all gone by soaking the wick in some juice and direct dripping a few drops before putting everything back together. Have to double check that the cone is sitting properly which isn't an issue with the first strip but now second batch of atties is working without the burnt taste.  Maybe these atties are salvageable after all!!

[Cosmicdonkey]

I managed to fix my three dead attys out of the pack of five i got. i had the usual problem of dry hits every few vapes. I removed the spike plate from the coil section and with a pin i gently pushed it through the centre of the mesh where the wick is held in place. i didn't push it all the way through just in to each end and give it a little wiggle to open it up a bit so the wick was not held so tight. i did this while the wick and mesh were still in the spike. i then pulled the wick down through the mesh while holding the mesh in place with the pin so the wick was just visible by looking down into the spike. I have tried all three attys and they all vaped a lot better. the one i am using as my main has had about 10ml through it at the moment and is working perfect. i am sure that when i come to dry burn it the wick will be stuck to the coil. but at the moment it seems to be workng perfectly

[Lettie22]

Cosmic, I had the same thing happen with 2 of my C attys and pretty much the same thing.   Don't know if you saw my post in this thread on Feb. 15th where I discussed it.  It was such a tight draw that I knew I had to make some room for the air.  Glad you got that fixed.   

[Cosmicdonkey]

Just found it m8. sorry i must of missed it

[Lettie22]

You post was much more descriptive than mine and hopefully will help other peeps!   

[Darth Vaper]

I managed to fix my three dead attys out of the pack of five i got. i had the usual problem of dry hits every few vapes. I removed the spike plate from the coil section and with a pin i gently pushed it through the centre of the mesh where the wick is held in place. i didn't push it all the way through just in to each end and give it a little wiggle to open it up a bit so the wick was not held so tight. i did this while the wick and mesh were still in the spike. i then pulled the wick down through the mesh while holding the mesh in place with the pin so the wick was just visible by looking down into the spike. I have tried all three attys and they all vaped a lot better. the one i am using as my main has had about 10ml through it at the moment and is working perfect. i am sure that when i come to dry burn it the wick will be stuck to the coil. but at the moment it seems to be workng perfectly

I haven't had a chance to try this yet but it looks promising.

[Tara]

Well I just got an email from CS saying they've recieved my attys and it looks like they are going straight to Joye along with my 4 pages of usage/test results; they said they would let me know the findings.

VicP, did you ever hear back about yours?