Tornado Ego-C, Teamwork to figure out some problems

[Tango]

Great news guys. Yes my Ego-C is working a lot better with S/S wicks. Real happy we seem to have got somewhere with this annoying wick issue.

[RichJr]

I think I found an answer to some of the weak vapor problems of the eGo-C. The brass plate beneath the head gets bent inward or pushed in slightly after a long period of use.  I bent the brass plate just ever so slightly to lift it permenently off the silicon seal a bit. Now every vape is a monster vape. It seems the downfall to the C is the many threads and parts that can get dirty or wear down. Even if kept clean like mine it still seemed weaker than when it was new and I dry burn to get it full power so it should be beast by instead I got some good hits and some no so good hits. This was a Great fix as now I won't have to crank down the base to the cone for a good connection. I just thought this would be worth mentioning.

After a bit of using it I have to add this. I have a booster and use it all the time. After bending the plate I've had to turn the booster down! It really made that much of a difference that I even tighten the cone less. I will get a pic to show.  

Another edit. I'd like to try the as wick but my wicks are still fine after many months so no need for me to buy the stuff. If someone can make one, test it (so my atty doesn't blow) and send it to me in an envelope (put it in a pen cap and tape the end so it doesn't bend) with stamp I'd appreciate it and will return the favor somehow.  

Yet another edit. As the battery itself gets old the button itself may need to be pressed harder to get full power.

[Tango]

Good tip about the contact plate. I also use a booster but mainly when the the atty appears weaker and vaping less. With regard to S/S wicks: You will not blow your atty if you oxidise the wick correctly as per the video by Bazz. You are real lucky to have no issues with the original C-wicks, but as the old saying goes ( If it ain't broke don't fix it. Just a point about the C-batteries, I have had one that stopped working and remedied this by pulling up the centre pole of the battery ( very, very carefully ) . Problems, problems, but a nice piece of kit when working properly. 

[Lettie22]

I think I found an answer to some of the weak vapor problems of the eGo-C. The brass plate beneath the head gets bent inward or pushed in slightly after a long period of use.  I bent the brass plate just ever so slightly to lift it permenently off the silicon seal a bit. Now every vape is a monster vape. It seems the downfall to the C is the many threads and parts that can get dirty or wear down. Even if kept clean like mine it still seemed weaker than when it was new and I dry burn to get it full power so it should be beast by instead I got some good hits and some no so good hits. This was a Great fix as now I won't have to crank down the base to the cone for a good connection. I just thought this would be worth mentioning.

After a bit of using it I have to add this. I have a booster and use it all the time. After bending the plate I've had to turn the booster down! It really made that much of a difference that I even tighten the cone less. I will get a pic to show.  

Another edit. I'd like to try the as wick but my wicks are still fine after many months so no need for me to buy the stuff. If someone can make one, test it (so my atty doesn't blow) and send it to me in an envelope (put it in a pen cap and tape the end so it doesn't bend) with stamp I'd appreciate it and will return the favor somehow.  

Yet another edit. As the battery itself gets old the button itself may need to be pressed harder to get full power.

Rtsjr, I'll send you a couple.   PM me with your full name and address.   No need to "return the favor," I'm just "paying it forward" from others who have been very kind to me and will remain anonymous, but you who you are!   

[Rabidrabbit]

I've been using my ego-C since FEbruary and I did figure out a leakage problem on my end.

having used it some time now I have pinpointed that the leakage occurs every time my cart is almost, but not quite emptied.

So aside from using the rubber caps, I now make sure when i see the cart is about 1/4 emptied, I refill.
It seems to help.

Thought i'd share.......

[RichJr]

I've been using my ego-C since FEbruary and I did figure out a leakage problem on my end.

having used it some time now I have pinpointed that the leakage occurs every time my cart is almost, but not quite emptied.

So aside from using the rubber caps, I now make sure when i see the cart is about 1/4 emptied, I refill.
It seems to help.

Thought i'd share.......

This is absolutely correct also. When tank is almost empty the negitive pressure is weak allowing the last bit of juice to just fall out.

Thank you Lettie!

[skissiks]

After a bit of using it I have to add this. I have a booster and use it all the time. After bending the plate I've had to turn the booster down! It really made that much of a difference that I even tighten the cone less. I will get a pic to show. 

Yet another edit. As the battery itself gets old the button itself may need to be pressed harder to get full power.

I noticed the same thing, one side of the plate was up and the other side pushed down so I evened them up and had to turn down both the booster and the VVV. 

I haven't noticed having to push harder on the buttons and I do have some older Tornado batts may have to try it to see.

[RichJr]

I have one button that sticks on, it doesn't have anything to do with why I ha weak vapor. I only mentioned the button as a possibility because all buttons eventually wear out.

[rosetta]

Not sure if anyone is still following this since there have been no posts for a while, but I wanted to chime in anyway...

I've been vaping for about a year and a half now, Tornado > Tank > C.  I'd already seen the tip about lining up the vents so try to always make sure the tank is lined properly if it starts feeling clogged since I have a habit of turning the tank, especially when it seems not to be letting enough juice through.  Being lined up does help, but still I wind up occasionally getting an atty that causes the juice (menthol) to taste and feel very hot.  Actually even burns my mouth - and there is no juice coming through the mouthpiece.  I came to the forum to look for ideas on cleaning these atty's since I'd been told by CS at TW to use canned air to blow out T atty's (which worked great) but that doesn't seem to work with C atty's.  I took apart one atty that had felt too clogged/hot to use and followed directions for a dry burn to clean it.  At first it didn't light up at all.  After a couple tries, one spot on one end of the coil did light up.  I burned it  (only pressing the button until the coil lit up) maybe 3 times before it just stopped lighting up at all.  It didn't "pop" or anything, just stopped lighting up.  I assumed that atty was dead and tossed it.  Is there a better way to clean them?  What about boiling in distilled water?  Or is there a better way?

I read the post about pulling the wick up a bit and tried that.  It did seem to help some, but not sure how long that will last.  I am really not interested in buying special mesh and making my own wicks and it seems if the mesh is a problem then the manufacturers should change their way of making them.  I agree that QC seems to be an issue here.  Some atty's seem to work fine and others simply don't.  This would not be acceptable for any other market and should not be acceptable here either.

Also, I mix my own juice with PEG Platinum Ice, Menthol Flavoring, and VG diluent.  Having seen comments about VG being too thick, I'm wondering if I should add a little distilled water to my mix to thin it.  Anyone have advice to offer on this?  Is it okay to add water (as long as it is distilled) to the mix?  And how much is enough to thin it without being too much so as to ruin it?

I'm really trying to love my C but truly wish they would just come out with something that WORKS.  There is no reason why consumers should have to fiddle with items they purchase in order to make them work properly!  I understand this is a new item, but have to hope the manufacturers see the problems people are having and will continue to improve their product rather than expecting everyone to replace the mesh or rework the wick themselves to make it usable.  I never want to go back to smoking cigarettes, but at least when I lit up a KOOL it always burned like it was supposed to and always tasted right.  But if some of the cigarettes wouldn't burn or if I'd had to buy different wadding and repack the filter to get them to work I'm sure I wouldn't have stuck with them for so long!  I guess I'm spoiled...  I just want to get what I pay for, to have my PV to work like it's supposed to.  Is that too much to ask?

Sorry about the rant - if indeed anyone even reads this.  I'm just having a rough time right now and the last thing I need is a fight to get my nicotine fix!  I'd greatly appreciate any tips anyone might be able to offer.

[Tango]

Sorry to hear about your Ego-C issues Rosetta, I have been ranting sorry commenting on the poor performance of this item for ages. Take my advice a try something else, I did and the Ego-C is now redundant, used as a back up only, in case of dire emergency. Don't give up on E-Cigs, PLEASE. One bad experience doesn't mean the end ( honestly ). I also agree with you that us the customer shouldn't have to tinker with a product to make it work. ( AMEN )

[Drumvesta]

As someone who has been vaping for about two years now, and a tank fan since they first appeared, all I can say about the 'C' is that it is the most incommodious bit of kit I have thus far experienced.

[Tango]

Hear hear

[vp_smoker]

I agree drum, not had any probs with my C since I purchased it.

[Drumvesta]

I agree drum, not had any probs with my C since I purchased it.

  Are you sure you agree with me?

[Astrecks]

incommodious [ˌɪnkəˈməʊdɪəs]
adj
1. insufficiently spacious; cramped
2. troublesome or inconvenient
incommodiously  adv
incommodiousness  n
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

The eGo-C doesn't work for everyone, a bit like BIC disposable razors, I can't stand them, but my brother loves them 

[StevieD]

The eGo-C doesn't work for everyone, a bit like BIC disposable razors, I can't stand them, but my brother loves them 

Or indeed ANY razors Jeff?

[Astrecks]

 

[vp_smoker]

My mistake didn't read the whole post. Told myself off now off to do some sort of punishment.

[Lettie22]

Also, I mix my own juice with PEG Platinum Ice, Menthol Flavoring, and VG diluent.  Having seen comments about VG being too thick, I'm wondering if I should add a little distilled water to my mix to thin it.  Anyone have advice to offer on this?  Is it okay to add water (as long as it is distilled) to the mix?  And how much is enough to thin it without being too much so as to ruin it?

Sorry about the rant - if indeed anyone even reads this.  I'm just having a rough time right now and the last thing I need is a fight to get my nicotine fix!  I'd greatly appreciate any tips anyone might be able to offer.

Rosetta, so sorry you are having so many problems with the ego-c.   I am one of the lucky ones and love my ego-c.   I read on the forum quite a few times I believe, that the ego-c does not like PEG.   If you do a word search of "PEG ego-c" you were see some threads where it talks about it.   

If your ego-c is still under warranty, I would call CS and talk to them about this!

[rosetta]

Thanks so much for the replies!

The C actually works about as well as the T, some good atty's that last a long time and some bad ones that die in a few days.  But I'd like to know if there is a way to clean these atty's besides the dry burn.
I know some people boiled the T atty's but I never did mine because I didn't want the color coating to come off the outside of the cone.  That wouldn't be a problem now though, so I'm trying to find out if boiling the C atty's in distilled water is a good way to clean them or if there is some way to blow them out w/compressed air like I did my T atty's.

I had a problem with PG making my face break out and a CSR at TW suggested PEG instead.  So I ordered a bunch of PEG thinking that would solve my problem.  But when I tasted it...YUCK!!!  So another CSR told me to cut it with VG.  That has made it much more tolerable.  Still have a lot of PEG to use up though so am wondering if putting some distilled water in the mix might help and, if so, how much I should use.

Any suggestions?

[canniscam]

rosetta,

Some also recommend soaking the attys in a mixture of baking soda and demineralized water to clear out those stubborn gooped up coils..

Casey

[VicP]

Hi Rosetta,

When I swapped over from the stinkies to vaping I got Psoriasis and I suspected it was PG and changed over to VG ( I never tried PEG).

I too had loads of problems with C atties getting gunked up resulting in either burnt draws or really tight draws.

I switched back to PG in March and haven't had psoriasis or problems with C atties since. I think the skin problem was due to the enormous change my body went through getting used to not having the stinkies and absolutely nothing to do with PG. I suspect that the C atty performs better for me with no or a little VG.

In March I also stopped using Coffee or dark juices in the C and that seems to have helped me.

I clean my atties by removing the spike plate and putting the plate and wick in the gas hob until the wick turns white, I then carefully dry burn the coil part, re assemble and am good to go. This of course destroys any warranty. I haven't tried boiling them as my method works for me.

I know of folks who vape 100% VG on Cs without any problem so it really has to be down to how we all use our kit, vaping style and what juice we use.

Keep trying to find what works for you and best of luck.

Victoria.

[Astrecks]

Vaping is a bit like "rolling your own" there is a certain degree of "knack" to it. New products are being designed all the time, some of these suit some people and not others, and there are lots of other factors that need to be considered, such as eliquid types and viscosity, and vaping in the summer can be different to vaping in the winter! There are variations in voltage and ohms, each of these things could try the patience of a saint!

One would hope that there wasn't a "fiddle" factor to getting things working, but it seems to be the case for some people with some products

Sadly it is a learning curve for both us and the manufacturers, none of us would survive without either.

[chops]

Oh yes Astrecks, and wouldn't life be so dull if we just picked up an e-cig, it worked okay, we bought one type of liquid in just a very few variations and that was it! The issues can be annoying but the reward when everything is 'just so' for your own personal vaping is priceless.

[real-player]

i agree everyone has there own method of vaping when its down to the t  or c in most cases its sweet a little tinkering is all good as long as the outcome is amazing lol  happy vaping

[rosetta]

Thanks again for the replies. 

I suspected the oil on my face might have been from the ecig juice and when I did a search I found that a lot of other people had the same issue.  That's when I contacted TW Customer Service to ask for suggestions and was told PG was the culprit.  They said to use PEG but I quickly found out how HORRIBLE that tastes, and contacted them again for help! lol  They suggested I cut it with VG and that has worked to make the PEG tolerable.  I would happily go back to PG (after I use up all this PEG I bought) if it didn't make me break out so.  I just feel rather foolish having to borrow my teenage granddaughter's pimple cream! lmao 

The juice I mix up is almost totally clear.  I haven't quite had the courage to experiment with different flavors of juice yet, beyond trying to find a menthol I like.  (NONE compare to DV, by the way!)   I've read that sweet juices tend to gum up the works, so I've stuck with my menthol.  But I must admit, there are several other flavors that do sound terribly tempting....

I don't have a gas stove but perhaps I can try burning the wick with a lighter - if I can hold it on that long. lol   And I will try the baking soda boil as well.  Thank you for the suggestions!

You're right that it's nice being able to do modifications to suit personal preferences.  I just don't think it should be a requirement in order to use the product.  I guess I prefer the boring approach; being able to simply buy the ecig, buy the juice, and happily vape as is.  Yeah, I know... I'm getting lazy in my old age...   

[Astrecks]

........................You're right that it's nice being able to do modifications to suit personal preferences.  I just don't think it should be a requirement in order to use the product.  I guess I prefer the boring approach; being able to simply buy the ecig, buy the juice, and happily vape as is.  Yeah, I know... I'm getting lazy in my old age...   

I agree completely! I would hope that this can be the case sooner rather than later, but there so many variables excluding personal preference! Customer feedback is always welcome, and we do pass information on to our suppliers.

[skissiks]

I don't know why but my current ego-c atty I've been using for 4 weeks and it's still going. 

[Lettie22]

I don't know why but my current ego-c atty I've been using for 4 weeks and it's still going. 

Believe it not, I've had some last about 2 months (with dry burning)!   When I say 2 months, I do have to admit that it was not used exclusively as I always have at least 1 other ego going at the same time!

[olgas]

Hi

these 5 heads strips for tornado E-go come FAULTY ALL THE TIME, when I would return them, TW send it back to me saing they are not faulty, I am experienced TW customer and what to do next?