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« on: June 05, 2012, 04:22:22 PM »

I came across a topic in the Odyssey on Vapour Trails TV section about Vapers that prefer a single coil in the carto or a double one and which works best?

So I moved the topic to this section where it would be more appropiate

One coil extends battery life compared to a two coil or even possible a three coil for example which would produce more vape!  But less battery life!  So why not incorperate some sort of switching device in the carto or device, so vapers have the option of both?

I think where where the thread left of was idea's of a 'rotary switch' and 'a phono plug' and possibly a 'din plug' or a simple 'slidding switch' on the carto.

Please feel free to place your thoughts on this thread about this idea? Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2012, 05:54:54 PM »

Jon,

Thanks for liberating the hijacked thread.. lol

This is definitely a mod as it doesn't utilize an industry standard connector but I though of a way to create a 510 connector with segmented terminals but it would require some exact threading so that the contact pads always lined up exactly the same when tightened down .. for some reason I don't think the Chinese connector guys are going to be in for those kinds of tolerance controls.

I envision a 510 mod adapter that would thread  onto any 510 PV with... Cylinder shaped with the switch exposed as either a push button and a small IC combo that would round robin through the coil selections (indicated by led flash) .. or a 4pos rotary selection switch. 


My Idea in a rough Visio Sketch...

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2012, 06:08:01 PM »

Jon,

Thanks for liberating the hijacked thread.. lol

This is definitely a mod as it doesn't utilize an industry standard connector but I though of a way to create a 510 connector with segmented terminals but it would require some exact threading so that the contact pads always lined up exactly the same when tightened down .. for some reason I don't think the Chinese connector guys are going to be in for those kinds of tolerance controls.

I envision a 510 mod adapter that would thread  onto any 510 PV with... Cylinder shaped with the switch exposed as either a push button and a small IC combo that would round robin through the coil selections (indicated by led flash) .. or a 4pos rotary selection switch.  


My Idea in a rough Visio Sketch...


WOW!  These diagrams really put the perspective of this idea to light!  I wonder what other ideas people will come up with? Or has anyone made anything similar? Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2012, 08:08:11 PM »

My Idea in a rough Visio Sketch...

Lol its quite a detailed sketch i thought. It certainly looks the business and i think the option of just having to replace a carto is a great idea along with the option of using this on a 3.3v battery and have performance just as good as switching to a higher resistance when you wanted to use a vv.

I wish i could add more but as technical as i am i think this has moved from the realm of theoretical design to actually trying some ideas out in the real world to see how this can work on a device. Its a great idea and for those with multiple set ups it would allow your atty to transfer regardless of what resistance you needed for the voltage you were using. Pretty awesome 
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2012, 08:21:41 PM »

I suppose a more accurate name for this kind of device would be a VRC or VRA ... Variable Resistance Cartomizer or Variable Resistance Atomizer

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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 08:27:04 PM »

I can see liam working away on this for the Odyssey VV.

Get the first UK made Variable Voltage made Enic with the First Variable Resistance Atomiser lol very impressed with your work casey
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2012, 08:30:37 PM »

Heh ..

Thank you for the compliment .. You all contributed to the idea .. I just put it on some paper .. hehe..

I was just sitting here at work and the call volume is non-existent so I thought I would whip something up ..

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2012, 09:49:40 PM »

A ten Ohm coil at the bottom? ? I don't know if it works the same with unbalanced resistances, but if it does then all three on would give a triple coil with over 5 Ohm resistance? You'd need a blooming generator to run that  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2012, 10:09:26 PM »

Stevie,

Resistors in Parallel: http://www.1728.org/resistrs.htm



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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2012, 10:13:00 PM »

Stevie,

I think I see what your saying .. It's not a balanced Pi network .. right?


I'm really not an expert .. let me reiterate that..

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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2012, 07:50:52 AM »

A ten Ohm coil at the bottom? ? I don't know if it works the same with unbalanced resistances, but if it does then all three on would give a triple coil with over 5 Ohm resistance? You'd need a blooming generator to run that  Grin
Yes! Cheesy  You need one car battery, one wheeled dolly to make it portable, it's a shame that there's not an alternative for a heating coil for the atomiser to get the resistances down, For example like the halogeon heaters you have at home more efficient than the old heating coil one's but the same heating output, but a third less of the energy drain, hence smaller battery? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2012, 01:07:13 PM »

Ok so I've double checked and triple checked .. With all three coils on it should come out to 1.384 Ohms .. not sure where the 5ohms is coming from ..

A bridged or Pi network would create an overall resistance of 5 Ohms but that is because the 10ohm and the 4.5ohm would be in serial to at least the 2.5ohm increasing the resistance before going parallel...

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