Daily TW Delivery - SD Mk2 & Triple coil carto questions

[tez77]

Another day, another delivery from TW.

This morning I received my my SD MKII to compliment my tornado-t and some XL Triple coil cartos. The SD is much smaller than it appears to be in the photos here which is nice.

In my quest for a cheaper alternative to tank atties, I tried clearos and yuck, could not get on with the taste from them so ordered triple coil XL cartos (In error, I thought I had ordered dual coils but oh well). Filled one at lunchtime (which takes a while ) and slapped it onto my tornado battery. First impressions on taste alone is that they are soooo much better than clearos, I can taste what I put in, not plastic which is nice

My problem is very very little vapour. I was using my tornado passthrough battery (not hooked up and possibly running at ~ half charge) and just couldn't get a decent vape going. Do they take a while to run-in? There's plenty of fluid in there as it was starting to leak at the bottom a little. or do I need a higher voltage (hopefully not, don't want to have to buy the booster).

The SD batteries needed charging so I couldn't try it on there, will the carto perform better on the SD?

[StevieD]

Your triple coils should perform a bit better on a freshly charged SD, the Tornado's are regulated to provide a constant 3.3v throughout their working period, whereas the SD is unregulated and so a freshly charged SD will give about 4.2v, slowly dropping until it gets too low to work satisfactorily. Hope this helps.
Happy vaping.

[tez77]

Thanks StevieD. So the bottom line is to use on a tornado I would need the booster? Would dual coils be ok on the tornado without a booster (as I have some of those coming too).

[StevieD]

I've used the Mega Dual Coils on a standard Tornado and they work very well, can't see that the 510 version should have any problems.

[tez77]

I've used the Mega Dual Coils on a standard Tornado and they work very well, can't see that the 510 version should have any problems.

Cool, thanks. Its more than likely that I'll be using the SD with the cartos when im at home and keep the tornado (and soon to be ego-c) for out and about.

[tez77]

Arrgghhhh

Not getting any more luck using the SD. Hardly any vapour at all from the carto 

The carto meters out to 1.8ohms so should be good and the SD meters out at 4.0v. Im just not having any luck... what am I doing wrong???

[StevieD]

Well, that 1.8 ohms is actually three 5.4 Ohm coils (If I've got my sums right), so to be honest I wouldn't expect much from them at standard voltages....but then again the same principle applies to the Mega Dual Coils, and they are vape monsters.

[tez77]

Well in that case what a complete and utter waste of money. I fast losing my patience with this

[trog100]

its about "heat" if each coil dosnt get hot enough to vaporize the liquid they are not going to work as well.. in theory 3 coils is like running three Atomizers at once it needs three times the power..

okay if you have that power not okay if you dont.. this stuff sells on the basis of more is better.. up to point maybe.. beyond that point no..

its not just volts ether.. you need watts and amps.. boosters wont do it.. two coils makes sense three dosnt.. its one too many..

trog

[tez77]

its about "heat" if each coil dosnt get hot enough to vaporize the liquid they are not going to work as well.. in theory 3 coils is like running three Atomizers at once it needs three times the power..

okay if you have that power not okay if you dont.. this stuff sells on the basis of more is better.. up to point maybe.. beyond that point no..

its not just volts ether.. you need watts and amps.. boosters wont do it.. two coils makes sense three dosnt.. its one too many..

trog

So will dual coils be ok on a standard tornado battery?

[StevieD]

As I said above, dual coils work fine, I love the mega dual coils, but am not so keen on the 510 style ones, but that's just my preference.

[tez77]

As I said above, dual coils work fine, I love the mega dual coils, but am not so keen on the 510 style ones, but that's just my preference.

Ok thanks. I already have some 510 duals on order. Out of interest, what dont you like about the 510s?

[StevieD]

I think it boils down to the very limited capacity with the standard carto size , dual coils and filler, they just need refilling too often...as i said, I prefer the Mega Dual Coils to the standards. My faves are the XL clearos, with no filler and a top mounted coil they give  a superb vape and although their 'capacity' is similar to the XL Dual Coils, it's all juice, no filler. Then again, every style of atty and carto has its fans and its haters, I suppose the knack is in finding what works for you. 

[tez77]

I think it boils down to the very limited capacity with the standard carto size , dual coils and filler, they just need refilling too often...as i said, I prefer the Mega Dual Coils to the standards. My faves are the XL clearos, with no filler and a top mounted coil they give  a superb vape and although their 'capacity' is similar to the XL Dual Coils, it's all juice, no filler. Then again, every style of atty and carto has its fans and its haters, I suppose the knack is in finding what works for you. 

Yeah I can't do clearos, its a taste thing for me   It's an expensive game finding out what works for you personally though. The mega duals are out of stock but hopefully the 510 duals will nail it and/or I Can get a heap of the tank atties at a 40% in the yoyo

Once thats sorted I just have to get the hang of this mixing lark since the orange I just made turned out gross lol.

[prof beard]

Triple coil devices are best at voltages higher than 4.2 - so not really ideal for standard e-cigs

[tez77]

Triple coil devices are best at voltages higher than 4.2 - so not really ideal for standard e-cigs

So I see now lol

lt was actually a mistake, I thought (could have sworn) I had ordered dual coil but still frustrating.

Loving the SD though

[prof beard]

Dual coils are very good on the SD

[tez77]

Well FINALLY I think I've found my own personal vaping heaven!!

My XL dual coils arrived today and I think I'm finally happy (yeah I know, that doesn't come easy!) providing they don't now leak and that they are of a consistent quality as I get through the 3 boxes I have

Perfect taste and loads of vapour at a decent price Ok they look a little odd on the tornado but until the mega dual coils are back in stock these will definitely keep me going.

Anyone know what kind of life I can expect from these things?

[drahcir]

I find that you need to run these at 5 volts for them to really come alive. Which sucks because there isn't a product TW offers that goes that high. Thats when a good variable voltage device comes in that goes up to 6v

[tez77]

I find that you need to run these at 5 volts for them to really come alive. Which sucks because there isn't a product TW offers that goes that high. Thats when a good variable voltage device comes in that goes up to 6v

You must love your vape, these things are surely mental at 5v

How do you know when these things need topping up? Think I must have burnt one last night because it tasted fine to begin with but now it tastes and smells like new plastic packaging if that makes sense, I did get it bloody hot though as I was chaining on the passthrough.

[trog100]

most boosted VV devices have a limit on them.. you can use 6 volts but not with 1.5 ohm LR atomizers.. volts are only part of the story.. power is measured in watts..

the other big factor that never gets a mention is how much use the atomizer has had.. a nice new one will always produce more vapour (and a better taste) than an old one..

i think the biggest reason for folks needing more watts or battery power is trying to keep old past their best wimped off atomizers going..

i use an SD with standard 3 ohm single coil cartomizer.. it produces ample vapour with a nice taste.. i do chuck my cartos after a couple of days use.. use them for any longer and they develope a bitter burnt taste and the fluid dosnt wick very well.. changing  your "mizers" often is the secret to good e smoking most folks try and keep them going too long..

this is part of the long term learning curve.. atomizer wimp off.. when they do they need replacing.. do this and your e smoking will be good... dont do it and it wont be good..

trog

[tez77]

Thought I would post an update as I've been using the DC XL 510 cartos now pretty much exclusively for the past 4 days, vaping... well... a lot.

First one was excellent for a day, then started to smell and taste a bit plasticy/rubbery. Tried two others and they seemed to go the same way pretty quickly but I was chaining and they were getting rather hot. I was also impatient after filling the fist few and was vaping them right after filling them. After reading some stuff on here about filling them and letting them rest I decided to try a different method. With a new carto I added about 20 drops of RL premixed strawberry and let the carto sit for half an hour. Repeated the same tedious process until the carto was full and there seems to be a huge difference. I wondered if I had burnt the other cartos so ripped them apart but could find no evidence to suggest that was the case, the wadding was clean as was the sleeve that sits around the coils.

Into my second day of heavy vaping on this one now and I notice its starting to get that same smell about it. I just refilled it and as the liquid dripped out the bottom it was really dark and nasty coloured but I kept dripping and its come clear again. It still tastes good but Im not sure if thats just because the strawberry flavour is so strong that it is masking any plasticy taste but I guess I will see how much longer before it starts to taste the same.

I wondered what others experiences with these are with regards to that plasticy smell & taste (oddly I quite like the smell just not the taste). Is it possible I am burning them as they do get bloody hot when chaining and as a relative newcomer to this I find it difficult to know when they need topping up (unlike the tanks I started with) so I try to keep topping them up every few hours. I have another two sat soaking up strawberry liquid (its sooo nice ) right now which I will give a good seeing to tomorrow (providing the eGo-C doesnt take over ) and see how I get on in time.

I got carried away in the yoyo and now have about 50 of these things left but hell they were dirt cheap at just over £1 each and they do seem to produce a good amount of vapour so im not too fussed about it. I am keen however to know if I am simply burning them by working them too hard, anything to help them last longer would be nice.

[pufferfish]

Tez, your dual coil XLs (and the Mega dual coils if and when you get them) will stay fresher if every so often you give them a fill with AG and blow it through into a tissue. You'll see the dark stale juice coming out.
It works like giving the filler a wash but without risking killing it with water, as the filler is difficult to dry out after using hot water.
You'll get a slightly weaker next fill on flavour but high vapour of course, using AG.
I do this every three days or so, or if the flavour doesn't taste so fresh, and if you're chain-vaping on the smaller ones, make sure you keep it topped up to avoid that hot burnt taste.
I like the XL dual coils but really love the mega D/Cs which need less frequent topping up. Just make sure you give a very slow first fill with those, and a long resting time before vaping to avoid disappointment. Once they're properly soaked, they're vaping monsters IMHO