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« on: February 19, 2012, 10:47:30 PM » |
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I find this a good ecig but vapour does seem to go down as the battery runs down. After it flashes to say change it clouds of vapour on the fresh battery! Is this normal?
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 10:55:16 PM » |
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Yes.... but it happens for less time and more noticably with the Tornado and Titan as they are regulated outputs so the drop off only happens right near the end of the charge. With an unregulated model the drop off happens with each vape as the charge is getting less and less, so you probably won't notice the drop so much until it gets too weak.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 11:05:47 PM » |
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Mine seems to drop off for a long time?
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 11:15:38 PM » |
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did you get your batteries from TW? There are some fake Joy products out there that don't use PWM technology, and they won't exhibit the same behavior as genuine Joy products (like the Tornado) with their PWM technology.
Tornado batteries (or any genuine Joy eGo batteries) will maintain constant voltage until almost fully discharged, with only a slight drop-off just before the battery signals it needs a recharge.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 11:26:16 PM » |
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That could explain it I was given the kit with defo not TW batteries but the rest is!
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 11:33:05 PM » |
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Yeah, well then it sounds like that's the case. There's noting necessarily wrong with them.... they just won't have the PWM technology and so will allow the voltage to sag as the battery discharges.....  also, may not have all the protection circuitry of the Tornadoes. If you get a TW Tornado or genuine Joy eGo battery, you'll see the difference right away. |
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 11:42:48 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 09:10:02 AM » |
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Wow Nick -- you got that one right on! Guess that's why you have so many stars behind your name!  I know absolutely nothing about batteries, what is "PWM". Since that guy's face got burnt up from an e-cig, I'm trying to learn more about batteries and care for them, etc. Paulette P.S. Hope you are feeling a bit better! |
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 10:33:53 AM » |
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Wow Nick -- you got that one right on! Guess that's why you have so many stars behind your name! I know absolutely nothing about batteries, what is "PWM". Since that guy's face got burnt up from an e-cig, I'm trying to learn more about batteries and care for them, etc. Paulette P.S. Hope you are feeling a bit better! Hey Lettie, Didn't you know.. 8Ball is wanted in 5 states for 'star theft' ?  ah ok.. I admit it.. His stars are well deserved.. He's a clever old bean really! The Ego batts have this tech called 'pulse width Modulation' (PMW) which basically means that they output their voltage at a constant rate.. 3.3volts I think? So rather than get a massive performance on a fresh charge which gets gradually more rubbish as they day goes on. The theory is that it'll be the same from fresh until its Battery bed time! That's about all I know as I'm not a clever as some of the tech fold on here.. Just about understand it all myself! But hope it helps.. I'm sure they will give you a more 'in depth' version at some point! Now.. About those stars that I loaned you 8.. When you said.. 'borrow' ?  . Lol.. Run away.... |
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 03:12:51 PM » |
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I know absolutely nothing about batteries, what is "PWM". Since that guy's face got burnt up from an e-cig, I'm trying to learn more about batteries and care for them, etc.
Here's a very well written article click here...intro to pulse width modulation...covers the basics pretty well |
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 03:33:55 PM » |
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Dereck72 -- thanks so much!
Since you were so helpful and I know you have a lot of knowledge about batteries, can you just give some information so that I won't have a battery blow my face off!
I use the Tornado T and the eGo-C, no boosters or anything like that. I put my batteries on the charger every evening (I used to do it overnight, but then got scared and started doing it while I am still awake). Normally I have 4 PVs going during the day and now I've even started unscrewing them from the atomizers while they sit there unused. I think I may have gone overboard in my safety-thinking (as I know nothing about batteries).
I'm not asking you to tell me the whys of anything, maybe just reassure me that I can charge these things while I'm sleeping and it's okay to leave the battery screwed to the atomizer for a couple hours while I'm not using them.
I know I must sound dimwitted ~~ humm, maybe I am about batteries anyways!
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 04:02:36 PM » |
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Hi Lettie! Well, it's best not to leave your batteries on the charger unattended. That said, I leave mine on the charger overnight all the time, so......  As far as leaving your attys attached to your batteries when not in use, there shouldn't be any risk in that. Then main thing you want to watch for is that you don't carry loose batteries around in your pocket or purse. You don't want to have them in a position where they could be activated and/or shorted out when you're not aware of it (like carrying them around loose in a pocket or purse, for instance ). And if you have a battery that's acting different (getting hot, not charging, charging in a matter of minutes, remaining activated after you release the button, or if the button starts flashing and doesn't stop (and this last one is usually accompanied by the battery getting very hot)), then stop using it and get it outside and away from anything flammable. If you respect these things there's really not that much to be concerned with, IMHO. Oh, and thanks to you and VE for the kind words. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 04:27:34 PM » |
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No, with the button protector on it and carrying it in a case you should be just fine. |
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2012, 04:34:39 PM » |
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Hootie Hoo, thanks Nick cause that one in the purse will be my lifesaver if the two I carry out and about should die. You know -- my back up to my back up! |
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2012, 08:38:03 AM » |
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2012, 08:47:52 AM » |
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And Nick if what I carry is a little too girlie for ya, I found one just for you!  |
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2012, 10:41:44 AM » |
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WOW! Very cool Lettie.  . . . . . Love the 8Ball case!  But it's not big to hold even my backups to my backups. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2012, 03:36:27 PM » |
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WOW Lettie !!! Looove the black jewelled case, very pretty.... just my sort of thing as I love black with bright rainbow colours... I'm a bit of a magpie on the quiet  I have a new trick for carrying spares everywhere I go. I take Nickball with me   |
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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2012, 03:43:33 PM » |
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WOW Lettie !!! Looove the black jewelled case, very pretty.... just my sort of thing as I love black with bright rainbow colours... I'm a bit of a magpie on the quiet I have a new trick for carrying spares everywhere I go. I take Nickball with me I always knew I was destined to be a beast of burden....... I wouldn't really mind so much if she'd use a saddle and forgo the bit. |
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