Pipe Cartomisers

[Silk]

Hi there, been a while since I posted anything in this forum, but thought a couple of you might find this useful

If the standard pipe carto appears dead, it might not be as bad as it seems. I threw a few away before getting annoyed and looked harder at the issue, especially when a new one looked DOA. 

In the screw end of the carto the centre point can become depressed, not allowing it to make a full connection.  By carefully inserting a bent paper clip into the hole and pulling GENTLY. you can pull this centre so it sits a little prouder and once again make a good connection. Since then I have only had to dump 2 due to weak coils (overuse)

You can also use a 510 CE2 Clearo, but it will need a little modding - to start the diameter at the screw end is a little wide, due to the way this end bulges the tube a little, I carefully put mine in a drill chuck and sanded it down a gnats doodah (technical measurement) until it fitted. Then I used some bungs from another e-cig cartridge (an evo) drilled a hole through it and cut them down to size so that when inserted they made the carto the same length as the e-pipe one. Its a bit of a cowboy job, but it works.
HOWEVER, I will say that even the low resistance CE2 does not produce as good a vapour as the standard ones. So I wouldn't use them as standard (but at least you can see how much liquid you have)  Handy in an emergency though
Would still love to see a clearo or similar carto available for pipe, or an adaptor to allow others to be used - I LOVE my e-pipe (especially in the evening) but do find blind carts a bit hit and miss after tanks and clearos

Oh another thing I did was file a groove either side of my screw cap - it  isn't as pretty, but it makes screwing/unscrewing it a lot easier

[WHITEE1987]

Decided to give the clearo a go this morning.

I have loads of the originals before they thickened the plastic. Cut it down in size and got it fitted and wow.

You say it doesnt vape as well as the cartos but I disagree. Thing is going like a train. Put it down even less now lol.

Plus i dont have to vape through that horrible flavour that comes in the cartos. Actually made me wretch. Good job the pipe is a stunner, made me stick with it.

[cornishbloke61]

Hi I am a first time forum poster so not sure if this makes any sense to you .  I tried different pipe styles and kept getting disgruntled by annoying electronic failures and poor build quality... (i have 3 or 4 dead pipes now all of course expensive and no refunds)  then I came across the OK Smokey pipe so I thought I would take a chance ... well its not asthetically very pleasing however it seems to function very well.  However, I am a huge fan of the clearos and smokamisers thingys so I needed a conversion piece to go from the 801 to a 510.  No problem there most major suppliers sell them,  I ordered a few from different places prefering in the end the totally wicked item.  However , I have noticed that none of them last too long before problems areise with the pipe flashing and not working etc .... I gave this due deliberation and after a while I think I have discovered a fault in ALL the conversion pieces .... the small piece in the centre is held in place and insulated from the outer body by a silicon that sits in a recess.  The problem arises when you screw it in place after a while the metal insert no longer sits evenly allowing short circuits to occur .  This is indicated by the light flashing sometimes and the pipe working fine on others ... it just depends how it is screwed in on that particular occasion.  To prove my theory i completely removed the centre part on the conversion piece,  knocked the head off a small pop rivet leaving just the barrel part insulated it with tape placed it in the barrell and carefully aligned and screwed the converter to the pipe and then the clearo to the converter .... hey presto it works again.   Now this would also make sense of using a paper clip to ease out the contact area of the clearo to gain a satisfactory connection. 

So with this information in mind please could anyone tell me if there is a manufacturer that produces a 801 to 510 conversion with .. say .. a ceramic or hard plastic etc insulated middles section that wont flex when used ??

I am not sure if you will understand what I have done but it may help someone out there solve a problem ... very very primitive but effective

ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED

[Astrecks]

Hi cornishbloke61, welcome to the forum

Yes I do understand what you are saying. I crafted my own 901 to 510 adaptor for the SD before the Tornado tank adaptors where available. I was able to use some acrylic rod as the insulator, this was bored to take a solid brass centre pin.

I think from a production point of view it is easier to produce moulded silicon insulators. But personally I don't feel it is the adaptors fault, but inconsistencies in the production of the cartomisers, with centre pins that are not true centred and "scew" the contact point on the adapter.

For this reason I have always wondered why a "phono" plug type system would not be better?.. I mean it is a well tried and tested method of electrical contact

[canniscam]

+1 Jeff, On the same page with you there..

cornishbloke61,

Yeah I an follow your train of thought quite clearly and I think I might have a suggestion if you don't mind a little crafting ..

You may be able to easily repair/mod the units you have with a little polymer epoxy.

The epoxy may be able to be placed in the same position as the silicon part and then you could fit the center pin and clean up the overflow that gets squeezed out.  Make sure the contacts are wiped clean before the epoxy sets .. Just set it aside until the epoxy hardens.

Casey

[cornishbloke61]

Thanks everyone .... great train of thought regarding a similar method to that used by the manufacturers of headphone phono jacks .... would be a great idea ....  and also thanks for the epoxy resin solution .... isn't it sad though that half a rivet head and a bit of duct tape constructed in minutes by someone living in the darkest depths of Cornwall is superior to what is on offer by the might of the Chinese production engineers lol....

Give me the rivet anyday   

[canniscam]

Thanks everyone .... great train of thought regarding a similar method to that used by the manufacturers of headphone phono jacks .... would be a great idea ....  and also thanks for the epoxy resin solution .... isn't it sad though that half a rivet head and a bit of duct tape constructed in minutes by someone living in the darkest depths of Cornwall is superior to what is on offer by the might of the Chinese production engineers lol....

Give me the rivet anyday   

No doubt ..

Casey