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« on: September 30, 2011, 10:53:25 PM »

I wounder what would happen if you put two boosters together. would it boost the first one. Like say you had the one at 4.7 and the other at 3.3 would it boost it to 8. Know I know if it did it would probably kill the atty or it would start burning the wick. I was just curious as if it would boost the booster
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2011, 11:00:07 PM »

other than wasting £50 for the second one nothing,the booster can take an input voltage of 6v,so the first booster would boost battery voltage to 4.7 if its set to max,the second would either step down the voltage to leave as is depending where the dial is set.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2011, 11:12:11 PM »

It prolly wouldn't work, but let me know how it goes Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2011, 11:15:29 PM »

That would be my guess.  4.7v max out..... so.....

It's a buck/boost circuit, so it's going to take any input within it's range, and step it up or down to the output you've selected.

drahcir, I think you're going to find your sweet spot with most atty juice combos to be right around mid-range anyway (higher for higher resistance attys, and lower for LR attys).  I rarely vape above 4.2v with anything.... of course that's just me..... YMMV. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2011, 11:16:05 PM »

I am not buying another one. Plus your right it would just regulate the first on. Duh I should have realized that. Thanks.  Plus I am happy with 4v. I was just curios
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2011, 11:24:47 PM »

trust me you wouldn't want to vap at 8v anyway,i tried 7.4v with 2 screwdriver batteries stacked in my 18650 mod and instant burnt juice and mega heat,needless to say the standard atty didn't last long either. lol
but at least i can say i vaped a full range of voltages. 3.3 to 4.7 with my booster,6v with two 123a,6.4v and 7.4 with 2 SD batteries Smiley
tbh  the booster has been the best so far with LR and stock attys,but i should get some high voltage attys and try  6v+ again
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2011, 11:27:20 PM »

this is what makes me wonder about those who swear by 5 and 6 volts.  Really?  What are they vaping?  Mud?
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2011, 11:39:35 PM »

I have a 5 volt atty that I use on another VV and it makes kola kick taste pretty good. But other flavors not so much. I direct drip with that one.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2011, 11:43:06 PM »

if you think about it ,its all down to the attys resistance .
you have 12v 55watt bulbs on your cars headlamps that are very bright and get very hot,but can also have 60watt bulb in your house running at 240v(if in the UK),but the car bulb is a lot brighter and produces a lot more heat,not a perfect way to compare things,but its all down to the resistance of the coil(atty) not voltage.
is my understanding anyway,i'm prolly mega wrong Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2011, 11:47:05 PM »

this is what makes me wonder about those who swear by 5 and 6 volts.  Really?  What are they vaping?  Mud?

LOL, yeah, I'm with you JohnE.  I suppose 5v, or even 6v is fine if you've got some HR attys to go with it (or mud to vape Cheesy), but I can't really manage anything over 4.5v with normal resistance kit, and usually that's a bit too high for me......  Undecided Huh  Too high?  Man, back in the 60s and 70s...... ahh, nevermind. Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2011, 11:48:33 PM »

if you think about it ,its all down to the attys resistance .
you have 12v 55watt bulbs on your cars headlamps that are very bright and get very hot,but can also have 60watt bulb in your house running at 240v(if in the UK),but the car bulb is a lot brighter and produces a lot more heat,not a perfect way to compare things,but its all down to the resistance of the coil(atty) not voltage.
is my understanding anyway,i'm prolly mega wrong Smiley

Yup, that's it Stig.  I=E/R.  Still applies after all these years. Grin
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2011, 12:30:23 AM »

this is what makes me wonder about those who swear by 5 and 6 volts.  Really?  What are they vaping?  Mud?

It all depends on what atty/carto and what juices are vaped.  Most of my juices actually are very nice in that range on the right gear, but not all of them.  Definitely don't use anything less than 2.5-3.0 ohms.  I have 3 and 4 ohm gear I vape in the vicinity of 5 volts and it tastes pretty nice (I love dripping on a high resistance 306 atty at close to 5 volts)  Wink

The exception to the rule is dual and triple coils.  While these have an overall resistance of 1.5, due to the fact they are multiple high resistance coils, they sing at higher voltages  Grin 
Unfortunately, due to the rather large amperage draw this creates, none of my variable devices will go up to this voltage range  Cry  It's also not safe on some mechanical mods.  If you're going to use them at 6 volts, in particular, you'd be pulling 4 amps!  Your batteries may not be able to handle this safely unless they are a high mAh rating.  That said, I tried a triple coil at 6 volts and it was a BEAST of a hit!!!  More than I ever need to have again, though  Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2011, 02:01:04 AM »

so basically a the booster is circuit that witch converts a lower voltage into a higher one. to do that it must use more electricity drawn from the battery so a three hour batery must get used quick but some of the higher capicty batterys will do good i bet. ill try it on a mega tornado a bet that would be best . just think how weighty that would be javascript:void(0) a serious piece of hardware. now if i could just get one of y'all lovely people to send me one for freeee...... Grin
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2011, 02:27:15 AM »

so basically a the booster is circuit that witch converts a lower voltage into a higher one. to do that it must use more electricity drawn from the battery so a three hour batery must get used quick but some of the higher capicty batterys will do good i bet. ill try it on a mega tornado a bet that would be best . just think how weighty that would be javascript:void(0) a serious piece of hardware. now if i could just get one of y'all lovely people to send me one for freeee...... Grin

My understanding from reading about this on several forums is that you lose around 25% of your normal run time with it cranked all the way to 4.7v  That's a pretty good trade off, IMHO.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2011, 02:55:38 AM »

trying to gain some knowledge here.  does 3.7 on a 1.5 ohm actually equal a higher voltage on a higher ohm somewhere with the same results or are the results different?

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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2011, 03:21:48 AM »

does 3.7 on a 1.5 ohm actually equal a higher voltage on a higher ohm somewhere with the same results or are the results different?

Speaking from my experience, the results are very similar, enough so that you probably won't notice much difference if any.  For example:

3.7 volts on a 1.5 ohm atty produces roughly 9 watts
4.7 volts on a 2.5 ohm atty produces roughly 9 watts

So it's the same power going to the coil and a very similar vape.  The biggest difference is the amp draw:  the 1.5 ohm atty at 3.7 volts is actually drawing more current, so will drain your battery faster  Wink  I'm not sure if the Booster circuit will have a different effect on your battery life between those two examples

On a side-note, this is the reason LR came into being in the first place:  to simulate 5v vaping on a standard battery Wink

In my experience, there does seem to be slightly more vapor on the hit with a high voltage/high resistance combination, but barely.  I've experimented with higher voltages and frankly I don't get the people that insist on only doing 5v or 6v and trash talk about anything less  Roll Eyes  In my case, I like the higher voltages/resistances more because I get much more battery life than with LR and adjusting my batteries lower.  There's also more room for adjustment and you're better able to fine-tune your hit
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2011, 03:35:59 AM »

thank you.  i've been wanting to ask that but just thought about it.  makes perfect sense.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2011, 04:01:07 AM »

Watts (power) is what really matters.  And it's why an LR atty on a Tornado battery "simulates" a regular resistance battery at higher voltages.  Of course there are other factors (like battery life as KJ points out), but essentially, if your coils burning 9 watts, it's burning 9 watts worth of juice (whatever that is Huh). Cheesy

Here's a link to a calculator:

http://www.crownaudio.com/apps_htm/designtools/ohms-law.htm

I think this is ok because there's nothing on the page vaping related, but if not, I apologize in advance (sorry caz, Darth, and Jeff Cheesy).

I've been told (by somebody that knows way more about batteries than I do) that you're operating at a higher efficiency with higher voltage and resistance vaping than with LRs and lower voltages, so I would assume the LR at 3.7 would drain your battery faster.  But that's only an edumacated guess. Undecided
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2011, 05:22:31 PM »

OK i have no idea what you guys are talking about, but the booster does drain the battery much faster. i get about 2 to 3 hours run time on a freshly charged tornado battery that is a couple of months old. but its well worth it, tried vaping with out it on and what a difference.
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2011, 07:03:15 PM »

lol, just ignore the nerd-speak and vape your head off, maria.  That's really what all this is about  Wink
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2011, 07:25:55 PM »

lol, just ignore the nerd-speak and vape your head off, maria.  That's really what all this is about  Wink

oh but its so much fun to read Tongue , thats just what i do KJ  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2011, 09:22:02 PM »

OK i have no idea what you guys are talking about, but the booster does drain the battery much faster. i get about 2 to 3 hours run time on a freshly charged tornado battery that is a couple of months old. but its well worth it, tried vaping with out it on and what a difference.

That's ok Maria, I have no idea what I'm talking about either (and I seldom do). Grin   As KJ suggested, just "keep on vapin' ", and leave the geek-speak to those of us who don't know what we're talking about. Wink Grin
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2011, 10:58:35 PM »

You too, Nick?  I thought I was the only one pretending I wasn't confused  Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2011, 11:46:46 PM »

You too, Nick?  I thought I was the only one pretending I wasn't confused  Tongue

PML. Grin  It's my permanent home address...... the state of confusion that is. Wink
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2011, 10:22:09 AM »

i get about 2 to 3 hours run time on a freshly charged tornado battery that is a couple of months old. but its well worth it, tried vaping with out it on and what a difference.

Maria,

I'm curious if your run times are on a standard tornado battery or the mega.  I am using a booster on the new mega pass through and I am getting a whole day out of it.  Since I don't know the exact voltage I would make a guess it's at about 4 volts.  About 11 o'clock on the dial.
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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2011, 12:27:57 PM »

i get about 2 to 3 hours run time on a freshly charged tornado battery that is a couple of months old. but its well worth it, tried vaping with out it on and what a difference.

Maria,

I'm curious if your run times are on a standard tornado battery or the mega.  I am using a booster on the new mega pass through and I am getting a whole day out of it.  Since I don't know the exact voltage I would make a guess it's at about 4 volts.  About 11 o'clock on the dial.

its a standard tornado battery and they are about 7 and 5 months old. the booster is set around 11 o'clock . i though it was because i was using a LR tank att, but then i switched to a reg tank atty, and it has just a bit more run time. the clearos give me the most run time. i think the batteries are the weak point, they are getting old. i have some new ones, will give them a try soon.
i am using the charger that comes with the kit, is there a charger that will charge the tornado batt faster?
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2011, 03:03:34 AM »

maria d

have you ever used  one of these?

http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/tornado-tank-ecig/tornado-mega-powered-usb-charger-product.html
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2011, 04:20:03 AM »


thanks John, but do they make one that plugs into the wall , not the computer ?
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