With the T Booster coming ...

[gogn4c]

I was just wondering the difference in voltage ^up and _down, for flavour/vapour/TH ect.

And what your sweet spot will be

I am quite excited about getting one and would like to know more 

Thanks,


Jamie / Gognac

[Kane2283]

When i'm using mine the sweet spot changes depending on flavor of the fluid. Also changes depending what kinda atty + if it's LR or standard. It's usually a little up or down around 4.2ish.

Though w/ my tobacco/menthol mix it's spot is all the way up, but that is the only flavor I have it like that for. Haven't vaped my espresso yet since I got my booster + i'm thinking that might be a higher 1 though. My fruit flavor's I don't like to high as it seems " to me" not as good. Would think alot of it also would have to go w/ how you "if you do" mix your fluid also.

[lordy]

It's typical that the booster comes out after I screwed up both of my mega tornado batteries and went for the SD! However, having seen the assembled picks, with a mega battery and mega tank I get the impression it would look more like you were playing the recorder than vaping when using the device!

However, with the increased voltage of a fully charged SD battery, I find some flavours tend to 'burn' more than others. Like Kane said I think a lot will depend on flavour, dilutents used etc. I wonder whether 4.2 volts would make a better vape out of PEG400???

[Kane2283]

The Booster works on my SD Lordy. Other than when I leave for the house it's how I use it.

[lordy]

Nice one Kane, for some reason I hadn't thought of that! I'd have thought it interacted in some way with the wizardry inside a tornado battery, which I don't think the SD has!?

[Astrecks]

I know very little about battery tech except what I gleaned from expereinced members on here, but my guess is, as Tornado batteries use a Pulse Width Modulation chip to balance  the voltage output from fully charged to discharged, I expect the same will happen at the voltages you select on the booster, all at the cost of a reduced battery charge life, maybe the chip in the booster re-programs the output voltage chip in the battery.
Used on a none PWM battery I expect it will still work, but you may need to increase the booster output to maintain a "hotter" vape as the battery discharges, this is just a guess mind you 

[maria d]

I know very little about battery tech except what I gleaned from expereinced members on here, but my guess is, as Tornado batteries use a Pulse Width Modulation chip to balance  the voltage output from fully charged to discharged, I expect the same will happen at the voltages you select on the booster, all at the cost of a reduced battery charge life, maybe the chip in the booster re-programs the output voltage chip in the battery.
Used on a none PWM battery I expect it will still work, but you may need to increase the booster output to maintain a "hotter" vape as the battery discharges, this is just a guess mind you 

? lol, never thought my new way of getting nic would need a science degree 

[RichJr]

I know very little about battery tech except what I gleaned from expereinced members on here, but my guess is, as Tornado batteries use a Pulse Width Modulation chip to balance  the voltage output from fully charged to discharged, I expect the same will happen at the voltages you select on the booster, all at the cost of a reduced battery charge life, maybe the chip in the booster re-programs the output voltage chip in the battery.
Used on a none PWM battery I expect it will still work, but you may need to increase the booster output to maintain a "hotter" vape as the battery discharges, this is just a guess mind you 

Electronics are my strong suit.
I would think the booster has a power management chip. If so there would be no need to adjust the dial to keep the same power. I would hope it has pm tech because if not and used on a non protected battery with the dial turned up it would drop the volts of the battery below critical faster. If no power management then adjustment would be nessacerry as the voltage in the battery drops. Careful with unprotected batteries just in case.

[lordy]

Rtsjr, I've noticed a few 'unprotected' batteries that would fit my SD with greater mah, but have been nervous about trying. Could you anticipate any potential problems with the recoiling lower spring on an unprotected setup, without the booster?

Thanks

[RichJr]

The spring will protect from a short but not overdrain and overdrain would be the only thing I worry about with unprotected batteries and the booster. Someone will have to test or ask the company artisan if there is a protection circuit and what exactly it protects (overdrain and or short protection).
Test this by using an unprotected battery and at a full charge keep the dial in one place the whole time. If the vapor doesn't drop the booster regulates just like a nado battery. Careful not to drain the battery too much.

[lordy]

Thanks very much - feel much better about just giving one a go and just seeing how it compares. Seen one at 1200 mah. Not sure what voltage it gives out but may test with a 901 atty in the first instance. At least that way if it's too much at full charge there's not too much damage done.

[drahcir]

well with my current VV it depends on how old the atty I am using is. with a tank I will start off with 3.5 and work my way up as the performance drops and with the clearos I start with about 3.7 and work my way up. My VV goes up to 6v and I have a 5volt atty I DD with and it makes DV kola kick taste great. Also with a new tank atty I wouldnt go above 3.5 to start or you will start to get a burnt taste.

[lordy]

Thanks Drahcir,

Been using a mega T on my SD, and on a full charge that equals around 4.2 volts apparently. Completely agree, have to take teh Tornado T to what would be classed as a 'flooded' state on a 3.7 voltage and consistently keep iin that state with a fully charged SD to avoid the burnt taste. It doesn't seem to matter how many cold inhales you do on a mega T at 4.2, it just seems to produce even more flavour, vapour and 'hit'/buzz. So far it's my favourite setup of all time (although I've only been at vaping for under a year!)

[gogn4c]

Cheers Drahcir, Lordy, everyone ^^

Good you said that as I will have a fresh atomizer to test it with, I'd probs end up with every liquid tasting like atomizer.. mmmm. 

*Fishing for direct answers* Any biters? It seems so far everyone has a different "sweet" spot which is fair enough.

I would just like to know the difference - using any Titan fluid and on a broken in atomizer to even out differences - of high voltage and low voltage TH/Flav/Vapour.

Obviously main flavours, fruit, tobacco, menthol ect.

Apologies I'm a bit slow to pick up


Jamie / Gognac

[lordy]

Well Jamie, as you highlighted yourself, there are so many variables with vaping - firstly there's the difference in the newness of your atty, then there's the difference in the way liquids vapourise (and whether they end up tasting 'burnt' because the vapour is being produced quicker than the tank can feed the atty, and then finally, the biggest variable of all is the individual user. The way you vape, whether long shallow draws or quick deep ones etc etc.

I work in Marketing and spend so much of my day saying 'it depends' that at times I think I'll shoot myself if I say it again on any given day! But that's life I'm afraid. It is what it is, and the only answer that is complete and comprehensive is to say "IT DEPENDS" then spell out the variables. Life is so much easier with golden rules to follow, but with vaping the best you can give is a guide. The rest is entirely subjective to the individual.

[dereck72]

Here's an easy calculator to help you find and keep your sweet spot when changing between different battery voltages and atty resistances.http://www.ohmslawcalculator.com/ohms_law_calculator.php once you find what you're happy with in terms of watts you can adjust the voltage according to what the resistance of your atomizer is.

For example you know you like 7.25 watts (which is pretty close to a tornado running 3.3v with an LR atty) and you know you're using a 2.2 ohm atty, enter 7.25 in the Power field and 2.2 in the resistance field leave the other two fields blank and click calculate....it'll tell you you need 3.99 volts.

Bear in mind there's no readout for the exact voltage on the booster, so you're going to have to gauge by the position of the dial.  If you start thinking in terms of watts you need to only remember one number, your sweet spot in watts, its a lot simpler than trying to remember what voltage you use for each different choice in atty/carto resistance.

Hope you find it helpful

[Darth Vaper]

Watt you talkin bout Dereck



LOL
Thanx for the link 

[BAzz]

I never even considered using the booster on my SDMKii...  I might have to give one a go.

[gogn4c]

Thanks alot guys,

I guess I was afraid of that Lordy but I guess there was no harm in asking. I'll just tinker around with it then n hope for the best

Ta Dereck.. I'll try make sense of that

As you can tell I'm not the highest wattage bulb around... *cough*


Jamie / Gognac

[Slinkytreekreeper]

The booster looks like an interesting device but does anyone think it's a tad expensive? Isn't vapour wasted if your blowing out huge plumes?

Trevor72 - I like your wattage thinking there but after some thought I believe it would be possible to get the same power draw from a low voltage + higher amperage as you would from a higher voltage and lower amperage but i doubt they would taste the same.

[Astrecks]

Trevor72 ?

[Kane2283]

Was thinking about it this morning after I woke up + accidently moved the dial on the Booster. I just wish there was a locking mechanic for the dial. It's very easy to move it, maybe like how like some watches have a push/pull dial. Is a minor thing and would probly make more problems than fix. Just woke up and was a idea.

[lordy]

The only half-way-house is whole hog, with digital read-outs etc. There are those devices around, but how much use are they and how much 'value' do these devices represent given the extra cost? It's putting the 'cyber' into cyber fag... but the majority of new users won't care. So long as there's a real-world alternative to cigarettes, that's all that matters for everyone except geeks (and I confess, I fit broadly into that camp),

For everyone else, from what I can gather from this forum, every taste is already catered for. Innovation needs to come through simplicity, not complexity. Well, that's what I think anyway! 

[8Ball]

Just a note from "Safety Sam" (anyone who's seen "Kentucky Fried Movie" will get the reference)

I would NOT, ever, advise anyone to use an unprotected battery in a 'dumb' mod such as the SD.  Full disclosure: I don't own a SD. but it's my understanding they're just a battery, switch, and atty connector, with no electronics to provide any intelligent protection against potentially hazardous conditions like over-current or under-voltage (you know, the stuff a protected battery is designed to protect against ).   I don't know about the rest of you, but when I ride my motorcycle without a helmet..... hands-free...... at full throtle...... with my eyes closed..... I don't do it going the wrong way down a one-way street.  Maybe I'm too safety concious..... (or just a big chicken ).

My point being, if your mod doesn't have some intelligence built in (like the Tornadoes, or the expensive VV mods like the <censored> or <censored>) then your battery should.  Especially if you're going to start jacking stuff in between your mod and your atty.

[8Ball]

The only half-way-house is whole hog, with digital read-outs etc. There are those devices around, but how much use are they and how much 'value' do these devices represent given the extra cost?...

Well, to each their own.  I can only speak for myself, but mine are very useful, and get a lot of use on a daily basis.  That said, any VV device is a VV device, and VV vaping is something that should not be missed IMO.

[Kane2283]

Have to agree w/ ya 8-ball, now that I have a VV device w/ the Booster I just wish I would have gotten some sort of VV device alot earlier. I just couldn't see spending that amount of cash on it since " then " I really didn't know much about VV. For the price + if your like me + have a ton of tornado batt's sitting around anyhow it was a good deal. Also it's got me thinking of maybe " just for home use, cause for how much they cost I don't want to take it outside lol" getting myself another VV device. Which 1 is what's hanging me up atm though.

Also about using it on diff batt's I agree w/ ya but I've got 4 SD batt's, but only gonna use them on 2 just in case things go wrong lol.

[8Ball]

Well Kane, it depends on 'how' they go wrong.  Killing your mod or your battery is one thing.  A venting battery is something entirely different.   As long as you're using protected batteries it should be fine.     Well, let me put it this way: if I had a SD, and if I had protected batteries for it, and if I had a Tornado Booster, I'd give it a shot... of course it's usually a safe bet to see what I'm up to, then take the opposite action.

[Slinkytreekreeper]

Sorry derek72, I was failing to do the multi task thing. 

Is there an edit button hiding anywhere, refreshing doesn't reveal anything.

[Killjoy]

The edit button disappears 2 hours after the post is made 

[RichJr]

Well Kane, it depends on 'how' they go wrong.  Killing your mod or your battery is one thing.  A venting battery is something entirely different.   As long as you're using protected batteries it should be fine.     Well, let me put it this way: if I had a SD, and if I had protected batteries for it, and if I had a Tornado Booster, I'd give it a shot... of course it's usually a safe bet to see what I'm up to, then take the opposite action.

I absolutely would also!