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« on: June 15, 2012, 03:40:57 AM » |
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I ordered the Torpedo and DCT, and I've been reading about the Torpedo reducing the voltage with certain cartos. Is that going to be the case with the DCT, and is it because the cartos are 1.5ohm? If so, what options do I have with other cartos that will work with the DCT? My PV knowledge is intermediate, so I'm still not sure all the ways ohms affect voltage, flavor, vapor, etc.
My goal is to have a VV PV with a tank system and the ability to actually play with the voltage without the PV dropping it on me.
Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 04:54:57 AM » |
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I use the DCT on my Torpedo but I've had a few months to reach my comfort vape at around 4.4 vdc.. If you are wanting to reach some of the higher voltage ranges you may want to look into a single coil carto that will fit the tank from the DCT. Something around 2.4ohms should be able to stand up to what you are looking for.
I just can't tell you where you will find it. A Google search could be your friend.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 04:59:53 AM » |
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I use the DCT on my Torpedo but I've had a few months to reach my comfort vape at around 4.4 vdc.. If you are wanting to reach some of the higher voltage ranges you may want to look into a single coil carto that will fit the tank from the DCT. Something around 2.4ohms should be able to stand up to what you are looking for.
I just can't tell you where you will find it. A Google search could be your friend.
Casey
I'm not looking to go too high, probably somewhere around 4 - 4.5. I just don't want it dropping down and limiting me to the 3's. You're certain you've been hitting 4.4?
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2012, 05:11:12 AM » |
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Would a 3 ohm dual coil carto work from 3 - 6 volts without the Torpedo dropping down the volts?
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 06:25:52 AM » |
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A 3ohm Dual Coil should work just fine ..
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2012, 06:26:50 AM » |
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A 3ohm Dual Coil should work just fine ..
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Awesome, thanks!
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2012, 09:54:58 AM » |
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Hi, The Torpedo as a limiting output of 2.50amps, at this point the Torpedo will reduce the internal voltage (but not displayed voltage) to prevent burning out the atomizer prematurely. As you can see from the scale below a 1.5ohm coil will hit this limit at 3.8volts, and the internal voltage will remain at around 3.7volts even if the display is showing 6volts, whereas a 3.0 ohm coil can be pushed all the way up to 6volts without reaching the 2.5amp cut off point, so the displayed voltage is the actual voltage display on the LCD. Unlike lower resistance atomisers, when a high voltage is applied to this 3 ohm atomiser it is able to deliver vapour and flavour enhancement without the risk of overheating the fluid and potential adversely affecting the users' enjoyment. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2012, 10:06:41 AM » |
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Hi, The Torpedo as a limiting output of 2.50amps, at this point the Torpedo will reduce the internal voltage (but not displayed voltage) to prevent burning out the atomizer prematurely. As you can see from the scale below a 1.5ohm coil will hit this limit at 3.8volts, and the internal voltage will remain at around 3.7volts even if the display is showing 6volts, whereas a 3.0 ohm coil can be pushed all the way up to 6volts without reaching the 2.5amp cut off point, so the displayed voltage is the actual voltage display on the LCD. Unlike lower resistance atomisers, when a high voltage is applied to this 3 ohm atomiser it is able to deliver vapour and flavour enhancement without the risk of overheating the fluid and potential adversely affecting the users' enjoyment.  Thanks, that explanation and chart was extremely helpful. I went ahead and ordered a few 2.5ohm dual coil atties that I'll probably end up using at about 4.5 volts.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2012, 10:15:08 AM » |
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Great  4.2v to 4.5v is often considered the "sweet spot" for a 2.5ohm atomizer 
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2012, 01:05:12 PM » |
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+1 Jeff, that information was off directly on the chart...
I like that spreadsheet so uhhh .. I'm going to steal it now .. k bye
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2012, 07:09:45 PM » |
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Im going to chime in here as i really cant find the info im looking for, but if TW stocked the 3.2amp version or 4amp version (which can be found in the US known by a different name), how far would a 1.5ohm dct cart go upto before hitting the limit, so for example if you had a 3.2amp limit version.
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2012, 07:22:29 PM » |
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Simple formula Volts= Current x Resistance(ohms) Limiting factors in vv are max amps and Resistance. Therefore max voltage will be amps x ohms So 3.2amperage with a say 2.4 ohm resistor is theoretically 7.68 volts MAX ??
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2012, 07:25:29 PM » |
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I have tested this out with an in line volt meter that shows the voltage under load ( when an atty is actually working ) Using a standard 6ml DCT / Torpedo with the voltage set to 4 or above I get a reading of 3.6v under load. The DCT isn’t designed for high voltage vaping I suggest going for some high resistance attys or single coil carto’s if you want to up the voltage.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2012, 07:28:07 PM » |
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So, may I ask, is standard amperage rating for TW attus and carto's about 2.5amps?
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2012, 07:30:36 PM » |
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well the dual coil cartomisers for the the DCT are 1.5, not a clue about the rest - i was just curious about the 3.2amp limit and 1.5ohm dct's.
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2012, 07:45:31 PM » |
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Oops. Read mine back. Reads a bit strongly. We're just trying to show that if you had a 3.2 amp rated 1.5 ohm DCT would be excellent as would be able to theoretically feed over 7.5 volts to it and produce an awesome 24 Watt powerhouse. Compare to Torpedo Chrome which if were able to push 6volts through its 3 ohm clearomiser, and am saying if, it would be a mega 12 watt vaper. Compare to ego-c at about 4.8 Watt  At least that's the way I reckon it works??
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2012, 08:04:45 PM » |
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Oh its ok i misread your reply before hand lol, im not sure if its the average but i believe its a safe average for most and most people wont run into overloading issues etc
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2012, 08:36:02 PM » |
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Cool. Thank you. Am loving this vaping for past six months. At 51 yo am running miles, gym too as well as getting more into my horses. On top of that, shiny syndrome and lots of toys to tinker and theorise over. Bloody Marvellous lol.
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2012, 09:13:27 PM » |
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Ive just been trying to understand why im using my torpedo with a dct and its set to 4.4v's yet going by the above chart it wont be running at 4.4v's, So with that said if i want to run at a real 4.4v and keep using the tank system ive got to find higher ohm pre-punched carts which with my limited searching is a mine field.
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2012, 09:28:33 PM » |
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Don't worry. I read in other threads TW are due to release different single coil cartomisers, suitable for the tanks, with higher resistance. Seems like they're on the button again :-)
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2012, 09:45:02 PM » |
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Hopeully they will be, as seriously these DCT's are pretty good, just a shame that we cant use the full potential of the Torpedo/LT without possibly getting one of the higher amp limit, which dont appear to be mainstream in the UK but the US.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2012, 08:55:07 AM » |
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Check out some of Odyssey threads, there's mention of upcoming single coil carts to retro fit the tanks of DCT's, most likely then you'll be able to delve into the true 5volt and above vaping? Am sure someone from TW will explain.
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